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schuck@fraser.sfu.ca (Bruce Jonathan Schuck) writes:

>samuel@cs.ubc.ca (Stephen Samuel) writes:

>>schuck@fraser.sfu.ca (Bruce Jonathan Schuck) writes:

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>>15 years of cutting AT CURRENT WOOD VOLUMES.
>Oh , I see. And after 15 years? Not one tree left standing?

  There are still fish left in the Atlantic ocean.
  The fishing industry there is basically dead

  After 15 years of treating the woods the way that they have been
  treating them, we will still have trees left.

  Then we will be just like the atlantic fisheries are now.

>Wow, what a surprise! Any proof, other than anecdotal stories from
>*one* ex-logger?
  Wasn't a logger -- it was a long-time forester who decided to go back
to school for a PhD. (I had a short talk with him on the bus, some time
later.

>>But yes, you're right.
>>At your extreme,
>>Fourty trees a year still keeps the loging industry alive -- Well, undead
>>at least...

>So, you assert that if current rates of cutting are maintained, there
>will be only 40 trees/year left to cut?


Forgot a smiley there, again, or are you actually that brain-dead?

>Ministry figures sugges that a 10% cut over 10 years, and then another
>10%cut over the next 10, and then another 10% cut over the next 10
>will bring the industry back in line.

>Thats a 30% cut over 30 years.

If you let industry make those cuts THEIR way, I can bet on two things:
1) The job loss will far exceed 30%
2) At the end of 20-30 years, they'll realize that they "made a mistake"
   and will have to make even more severe cuts (like, again in the atlantic
   fisheries).

In the atlantic fisheries, as well as here, the big companies claimed that
they knew what they were doing.  They claimed that interfering with the way
that they were doing things would just cause reduced profits and massive 
layoffs.

Take a look at the result of letting them do things their way.


>You suggest that at current rates, *no* trees will be left.
  Where did I say that???

>I think there is a big gap between the two positions.
   You think?
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Only when the last fish is caught, the last river poisoned, the last tree cut-
Only then will you realize that money cannot be eaten. (Cree prophesy)