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taganov@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Edgar Froese) writes:

>In article <24h13pINN85j@larry.cs.ubc.ca> samuel@cs.ubc.ca (Stephen Samuel) writes:
>>taganov@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Edgar Froese) writes:
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>>   I believe that it was Galiano island that used to be about 75% owned by
>>MacMillan Bloedel.  The island has now apparently been logged almost bald.
>>This is not a good precedent.
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>want more people in their backyards.  Why do Galiano residents dislike
>MacBlo?  They prefer a big, free park at the expense of MacBlo who are
>paying the taxes (and the capital carrying cost.)

MacBlo was making enough money off of the trees that they were taking
on the island (until they started taking more than a sustainabe cut, that
is). The people of the island offered to negotiate something which would
give MB a decent profit, and allow the island to retain most of it's
current status. They even scraped together a cash advance to prove
their good intention.  This was refused by MB, and MB later sued various
island members.
  Your comments seem to imply that island members were free-loaders.
If MacBlo still owns the island, the fact stands that it has been 
largly clearcut, the economic base has been removed and many of the people
who tried to negotiate with MB ended up fighting a law-suit for their
efforts.

>>  If the claim that clearcut land supports 1/4 the wood volume that the
>>original old-growth did is anywhere near accurate, then I think that the
>>claim clearcutting is efficient in the long term may take some serious
>>looking-at.
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>If you take 1% of the trees in a given area per year using clearfelling or 1%
>using selective logging, you still cut 100% in 100 years.  Selective or
>no, you have still removed timber and effected the site.  Now why do you
>believe that second growth trees in selective systems will automatically
>become bigger than in clearfelling systems?

Clearcutting not only removes the trees, it also removes the supporting
bioculture, exposes the topsoil to massive (in the case of rainforest
areas) erosion effects  and threatens other related ecologies (such as
salmon spawning).

 When done over large enough areas, it may even affect weather patterns.
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