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taganov@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Edgar Froese) writes:
>In article <michaec.742760657@sfu.ca> michaec@beaufort.sfu.ca (Michael Coyle) writes:
>>	You who are in favour of clearcutting have missed the point.
>>What is more importatn than weather or not the forest will regrow, or
>>weather it will be 'the same' after matters less than the disruption
>>caused bu the cutting in the first place.
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>Please make the point then, in more detail than above.  If the forest will
>regrow, and if the forest will be the same, what is your problem?

	Assume the worst case. The burden of proof is on the logging
companies that not only will the forest regrow, but that the
disruption caused by the cutting will not permenantly dammage the
environment. The approach of the companies and the government so far
has been to go ahead and log in a certain fashion UNTILL some group
(scientific study, etc) tells them that they shouldn't do that.

	Those are awful big IFs that you are using.

>>	Another point you seem to be missing is that ther has not been
>>enough study into the effects of cutting on the ecosystem. The forests
>>are not fully understood in the state they are in, and neither are the
>>consequences of destroying them. 
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>Well if you pardon the vulgarity, I'm sure that more study could be done
>on the effects of shitting in the ocean but I'm not about to tell you to
>hold it in for 50 years or so until the research is conclusive.  There has
>been a hell of a lot of research done on forest ecology!  The Ministry of
>Forests has developed an ecological classification system for the province
>that is world class in its detail and scientific effort.  This is the same
>system that is used in pre-harvest silvicultural analysis, planning for
>post-harvest management, and final determination of sylvicultural systems
>to be employed.  There is a large Forestry Faculty at UBC which is well
>repected for its contribution to research and education in the province. 
>This Faculty stands in direct opposition to government management
>decisions on many occasions!
>Have you read texts on Forest Ecology?  Have you endeavored to understand
>the rational, scientific  and ecological basis on which forest management
>is practiced in BC?  Please tell me!  Until such time I can only assume
>that you are repeating the standard "man is arrogant in his ignorance" theme.

	How much do I need to know in order to be considered an
expert, or that you may respect my opinion? I hear this again and
again from you, and I am beginning to tire from the refrain. Doubtless
you do know a lot about this subject, as I someday will too. But also
you have demonstrated that your opinions are as firmly set as the
roots of the trees you would see cut down.

	All that I (and many of the people who have written here) are
asking is that we be careful. So many irreversible mistakes have been
made by people who thought they knew what they were doing. 

>-- 
>Robert Froese  VE7MOQ
>taganov biogeocoenose approach                  "Clearcutting is not a Crime"
>taganov@unixg.ubc.ca

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