🚀 go-pugleaf

I am responding to one inappropriate set of comments you made immediately.
As I have other pressing concerns, the rest of my response will come after
the usual delay.

coatta@cs.ubc.ca (Terry Coatta) writes:
> > Regardless of your comments about the subtleties of causality, your
> > arguments about subjective harm and community need lead to one thing: 
> > mob rule.
> 
> I don't mind your questioning of the rational basis for my position.
> And I have had to think carefully about some of the issues involved
> in order to deal with some of the points which you have raised.  But
> statements like the above suggest that you aren't really paying attention
> to anything I present.  You're so interested in trotting out your
> pet peeves of ``collectivism'' and ``mob rule'' that you've stopped
> discussing the issue and started pontificating.  

I find these comments most inappropriate.  Far from pontificating, I have,
throughout this debate, responded fully to every point you have made.
Further, I have provided straight-forward answers to every question you have
posed - something you cannot claim.  Having responded fully in this manner,
I feel I am more than justified, on occasion, to make summing statements like
the one above.  As I have stated previously, I feel that going to extremes
often provides useful indication of the direction of trends.

On the other hand, you have certainly lapsed into pontification on occasions.
You have twice flown off the handle about scientific bias (unprompted on both
occasions).  Yet ironically, in your last two postings, you have based your
arguments on a "scientific" outlook!

I also think that the point I made about mob rule is valid in its own right.
It is a *fact* that many people are fearful of the result when subjective
considerations and "community need" are considered by the powers that be.
If this point seems vague, it is only because subjective considerations and
"community need" are.

> Thats fine, but don't expect me to spend too much time responding.

I somehow think there is no real danger of that.

Ken Buckland                     Freedom.
kenb@ee.ubc.ca