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Re: More Suzuki Anti-Science - Another Clarification

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From: Eric�
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 07:53
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hiflight@ecn.ab.ca wrote...

> It is a relatively simple matter to quantify the amount of oxygen
> production lost in the rain forests due to clear cut logging. That is the
> first point.

So why don't you try it, Jason?  Fact is that new forests rapidly absorb 
Co2 from the atmosphere while old ones don't.  Some Earth Firsters tried 
this pronouncement in Seattle about 5 years ago, and they were laughed 
out of existence by other environmentalists.  The best thing we could do 
for global warming in the short term is to cut down all old growth. turn 
it into houses, and then plant new fast-growing forests.  
 
> The second is that a forest is a diverse and complex eco-system containing
> many plant and animal species that interact in a complex and often subtle
> way.

No shit?  You will also find non-plant and non-animal species to be of 
utmost importance in coastal rainforests . . .
 
> It is a historical fact that man most often screws up when he does not
> understand the consequences of break closed loop control circuits in
> nature. 

Nope, it's a fact that massive human population growth is what's 
destroying natural habitats and exterminating species.
 
> Anyone who has studied control systems and electonic operational
> amplifiers mimicing differential equations cannot be struck at how
> different stable closed loops systems behave when the feedback loops are
> broken.
> 
> Most MBAs have no clue to this entire field of science and most of their
> remarks on the subject are ignorant and unscientific. They have little to
> no value in discussions related to the problems of man made incursions
> into the eco-system for economic gain.

Any attempt to define ecosystem dynamics in terms of human ones is 
destined to failure, I'm afraid.
 
> : 2) "Clearcut logging destroys BC's forest(s) and biodiversity"
 
> Biodiversity is a field intimately related to feedback control systems.

Not at all.  You might as well say it's related to economics or some 
other human pseudo-sciences.

 
> You can make a pretty good case for the fact that clear cut logging,
> coupled with multinational company efforts to create synthetic plants
> (complete with patents) is a pretty certain activity that will fail to
> replace what was previously present in the forest. A farm of monospecies
> trees, is NOT A FOREST.

You might as well couple clearcut logging with attempts to make a more 
efficient artificial heart.  That is if you are attempting to confuse 
people.   

Crazy, as a supporter of CPAWS I helped out in the fight to end clearcut 
logging in Wood Buffalo National Park.  What did you do?

rest of blahblahlah snipped.

E.Schild
haffabee@usa.net
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From: Eric� <Eric�@hardknocks.edu>
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Subject: Re: More Suzuki Anti-Science - Another Clarification
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