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Article #847Re: More Suzuki Anti-Science
From: Kelly Bert Manning
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 01:18
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 01:18
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On 13 Jun 2001 hiflight@ecn.ab.ca wrote: My but you love to rant about things you have no knowledge of. "Export" of software jobs to the USA is limited by the number of people in the USA who can write jobs. The success of the Airbus Consortium in Europe has left software as the only hi-tech area where the USA is still in contention for leading. You also have a very limited understanding of where software jobs are. Take Oracle for example. For all the hype it remains a very complex tool. Any Oracle application, no matter how simple, requires a full time DB Admin to keep it tuned. An Oracle application of any size or complexity requires a full time team of DBAs. It is very hard to do that by remote access from the USA or from India. Someone I know who works for Oracle did live in a bachelor pad in Redwood City, California for a while but his family stayed in Victoria and he is back here now as well. IT isn't just about software, IBM has 3 major product areas, hardware, software and IBM Global Services. Reports in the IT press have described IGS as IBM's biggest cash cow these days. Getting an IT system up and keeping it running involves more than just buying hardware and software and having someone do a 1 time installation. BTW, my wife and I do quite nicely without 2 full incomes, thank you very much for your concern about us supossedly being squeezed for income. She did work full time for several years, but we weren't squeezed, in fact we paid off the $70,000 mortgages on our first home in 6 years despite the Regan and Bush recessions. Back before direct deposit she used to have credit union clerks make envious remarks about her salary. They got even more envious when she mentioned that she was only working 3 days a week. > > Kelly Bert Manning (ua602@victoria.tc.ca) wrote: > : On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, SunnyJim wrote: > : > > : > A bunch of letters at the end of someone's name means nothing. Lots of > : > Phd's drive cabs and many more without anything have amassed great > : > wealth thru their own drive and determination. Education means nothing > > What you mean is capitalists that are ignorant, illiterate and whose > religion is that of Mammon. The "creed" is lying, cheating and stealing. > Yea, we know all about it, for hundreds of years in fact. > > One other thing. This group of pagans vote for either the communist or the > conservative form of government. "Pagan" can be used as a perjorative term and real pagans would probably take exception to being associated with the type of person you are referring to. On the contrary I find pro-capitalists most often have deeply held but ignorant right wing christian views. Christian loons also show up at the left wing end of the spectrum, eg. the Rev. Tommy Douglas. I seem to have pushed one of your buttons. Take a deep breath and relax, then try to distinguish between few actual wealthy capitalists who own stocks and pro-capitalist paupers who imagine that they too could be millionaires if they just picked the right horse to bet on or invented a better mouse trap. The dot.bomb recession was predicted in 1999 by Ted Lewis, writing in IEEE Spectrum about "The Crash of 2000". It doesn't seem that different from other recent bubbles related to Real Estate or to junk bonds. Remember when bidding wars used to break out in Toronto as soon as a For Sale sign showed up in front of a house? There were a lot of geniuses who thought they'd become realtors or stock brokers during previous economic bubbles. Like the dot.bombers they had to find something else to do for a living when the bubble burst. IT is a basic part of the infrastructure of most business these days. Can you imagine what phone service would be like if calls still required a manual connection to be made by operators? I used to shop at SaveOn foods back before they started requiring you to have their stupid card in order to pay the same price charged by the other stores. I preferred to go on Sunday evening because it was less crowded. One Sunday evening I notice that the parking lot is completely full and I figure crap, there must be a sale or special event going on. When I entered the store I found that none of the tills was able to scan and total up purchases because of a computer crash. Customers were lined up from the tills all the way to the back and then along the width of the building at the back of the line, some had apparently been there for hours. I was amazed that so many people would just stand there and wait for so long, rather than walking out. Everything was working except the computers. Lights, power, plumbing, air heating and cooling refrigeration, meat slicers and scales, phones, etc. but without a working IT system the whole investment was useless and not generating a single cent in income. Smart business operators know what the risks are and don't skimp on paying for the expertise to keep their IT systems up and running efficiently.
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