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Article #94Doctors - Employees or Running a Business ?
From: Rick Morrison - ppc sysadm
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1992 17:36
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1992 17:36
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In article <1992Oct1.075016.7879@mikejag.wimsey.bc.ca> steve@mikejag.wimsey.bc.ca (Steve (PrettyBoy) Barclay) writes: ..... > Doctors, as someone > pointed out, are not employed by the government, but they are paid by the > government. That strikes me as a contridiction. I was working on contract > for a company doing technical work, and they were the only company paying my > wages, according to Revenu Canada, I was employed by that company, regardless > of how I phrased or claimed it. It strikes me that regardless of how the > doctors want to look at it, they are employees of the BC government, and are > not self employed unless they are receiving money from more than one > source.... Actually Revenue Canada has a long list of criteria to determine whether an employer/employee relationship exists. These include whether the individual provides his own office space, is responsible for the general direction of his business, bears any financial risk related to obtaining payment, etc., etc. I don't think there is much question that MDs satisfy these conditions. So do contractors whose sole source of revenue is govt contracts. Many people have professional services contracts with the government (software development, accounting, legal, etc). These people, like MDs, are generally considered to be self-employed. One difference between these groups is that MDs have (until recently) no set limit on the amount of their billings -- MDs, effectively, do "piece-work." But, most professional services contracts are based either on fixed-price contracts or time-and-materials contracts. Now, tree-planting is also paid as piece work, but, of course, forest companies know how many trees they want planted. If re-forestation was based on the same model as our health-care system we'd probably have forests growing in the median of the Trans-Canada Highway :). Anyway, it seems one approach to the problem is to control the amount of piece-work that MDs do. Another is to adopt the British model with clinics and salaried MDs. I don't know how to do the first, and I don't like the second. But the current approach of capping MD billings seems to be a solution based on what would be easiest for the accountants. - Rick ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Rick Morrison Tel: 604/822-6063 System Manager, Pulp & Paper Centre Fax: 604/822-8563 The University of British Columbia Internet: morrison@ppc.ubc.ca 2385 East Mall Vancouver, B.C. Canada V6T 1Z4
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Newsgroups: bc.general Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!uunet.ca!xenitec!van-bc!cs.ubc.ca!unixg.ubc.ca!news From: morrison@ppc.ubc.ca (Rick Morrison - ppc sysadm) Subject: Doctors - Employees or Running a Business ? Message-ID: <1992Oct1.173618.13637@unixg.ubc.ca> Sender: news@unixg.ubc.ca (Usenet News Maintenance) Nntp-Posting-Host: alberni.ppc.ubc.ca Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada References: <1992Oct1.075016.7879@mikejag.wimsey.bc.ca> Distribution: bc Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:36:18 GMT Lines: 47