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Article #950Re: The corruption of Empire
From: JETman
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 00:29
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 00:29
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Larry G wrote: > > "Joseph Crowe" <jcrowe@io.com> wrote in message > news:Pine.LNX.4.44.0212181518110.944-100000@fnord.io.com... > > On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Larry G wrote: > > > > > > Nice sentiments, Alan. But you fail to address the consequences. > > > > > > 1. The neutral-isolationist movement in America allowed Hitler time to > > > start rounding up the Jews in Europe and ship them off to the death > > > camps. > > > > 1. Rebuttal - had Wilson not gotten the U.S. involved in the first > > conflict (after outright lying about never sending our boys over > > there), then events leading to the rise of the Nazis may never have > > even occurred. Even at that, do you believe that the U.S. government > > has a mandate, either constitutionally (no) or ethically (no) to > > correct all of the conflicts in the world? If so, please explain > > how FDR and Stalin were such bossom buddies..after all, Stalin had > > many more people killed than did Hitler. > > The Nazis came into power because England and France demanded that > Germany pay full reparations for WWI, putting a tremendous economic onus > on the people, and building a hell of a lot of resentment and anger at the > British > and French in the first place. It is my understanding that Wilson helped > broker > the peace with Germany, but Britain and France over-ruled his plan as being > too lenient and not sufficiently punitive. FDR was much more astute than > that > moron Truman who followed him. I get the impression that FDR appeased > Stalin only to maintain the alliance long enough to beat the Third Reich. > Truman > was the clown who gave away eastern europe and half of Germany because he > pulled a George W. Bush, looked someone in the eye and thought he was a > sincere and honest statesman. > Well you almost got it right... Truman has to be credited with the emergence of the Marshall Plan which prevented the situation that resulted after WW I... Hardly makes him a moron, eh? -- Regards, JT (Residing in Austin, Texas) Just Tooling Down The Internet Superhighway With my G4.......
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