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"Narendran K Nathan" <naren@tdc.tijp.ti.com> wrote in message
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>Folks,
>  I am working on solaris. I did a move command on a directory owned
by another person
>(same user group).
>original :
>drwxr-sr-x   3 amit     cdspdsn     4096 Nov  1 17:04
simulibs_raga_gate_amit/
>The move worked. But when I do a ls -l on the directory the directory
>name is changed but the owner and the time of last update is not
altered!
>command :
>mv simulibs_raga_gate_amit simulibs_raga_gate_amit_junk
>result :
>drwxr-sr-x   3 amit     cdspdsn     4096 Nov  1 17:04
simulibs_raga_gate_amit_junk/
>  Its quite obvious that the owner is not changed. But what is
confusing is that the time stamp
>is not changed. In this case how will anybody know the person who
moved the directory to another
>name & when?


For the time it's easy:

ls -lc

ctime (inode change time) logs just that kind of operations.

The author is not recorded, though, but this is valid for every kind
of operation. The author is always unknown.
You only know that (s)he is one of the people allowed to write on
parent directory.
For a rename operation, permissions on parent dir count, not
permissions on dir/file itself.

And, since the parent dir is modified, parent dir ctime and mtime are
touched too.

ls -la
ls -lac

(look at "." entry).

For further reference, 4.18 File times on page 102 and its table on
page 104 of
W. Richard Stevens
Advanced Programming in the UNIX Environment
Addison Wesley 1993

[fu-t set -- ugh, could you think of more groups]

in comp.unix.admin i read:

>  I am working on solaris. I did a move command on a directory owned by
>another person (same user group).

>The move worked. But when I do a ls -l on the directory the directory
>name is changed but the owner and the time of last update is not
>altered!

the i-node change time isn't displayed by ls -l, use ls -lc.  the owner
won't change at all, all you did was move the file, if you want to change
the ownership you have to do that as a separate step, which may require
extended permissions.

>In this case how will anybody know the person who moved the directory to
>another name & when?

enable auditing.  though `anyone' cannot obtain reports, at least someone
can and you can pose that sort of question to that person.

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bringing you boring signatures for 17 years

Sounds to me like you moved them into a directory that has setuid
on it....


In comp.unix.admin Narendran K Nathan <naren@tdc.tijp.ti.com> wrote:
> Folks,
>   I am working on solaris. I did a move command on a directory owned by
> another person
> (same user group).

> original :
> drwxr-sr-x   3 amit     cdspdsn     4096 Nov  1 17:04
> simulibs_raga_gate_amit/

> The move worked. But when I do a ls -l on the directory the directory
> name is changed but the owner and the time of last update is not
> altered!

> command :
> mv simulibs_raga_gate_amit simulibs_raga_gate_amit_junk
> result :
> drwxr-sr-x   3 amit     cdspdsn     4096 Nov  1 17:04
> simulibs_raga_gate_amit_junk/

>   Its quite obvious that the owner is not changed. But what is confusing
> is that the time stamp
> is not changed. In this case how will anybody know the person who moved
> the directory to another
> name & when?

> Thanks & Regards,
> Naren.