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In article <5cho75$j8r@cc.tut.fi>, p116711@cc.tut.fi (Tero Paananen) wrote:

> He didn't say he wasn't interesting in buying. He said he wasn't interested
> in paying to VISIT a web site designed by you or some other "We love Netscape"
> web designer.

I actually prefer MSIE. Works much better on the Mac. Only problem is it
doesn't support JavaScript.

You don't have to pay to visit the site. Hell no. But you need a computer
to connect to Internet. Old standards of communication, like simple phones,
just won't do. Same thing is happening to old standards here.

> For your information, Netscape is not based on ANY standards, lynx on the
> other hand supports more standards than Netscape and MSIE put together.

Netscape is based on their own standard, which they have managed to pull
off by getting 70% of all WWW visitors to use their browser. Fairly good
way of making things go the way you want them to, if you ask me. Definitely
much better than ranting in a newsgroup, where half the people read the
news using Netscape News, and the other half using Tin on their beloved
CLI.
 
> Web authors have been screaming for HTML3.0 (yeah yeah, it's dead...
> nevertheless there are so many excellent things in it) support in browsers
> all the time, Netscape didn't bother support it, MSIE didn't bother support
> it...why don't they give us what we want?

Well, they did pretty well without you Web authors. I assume they went for
the Web designers instead.
  
> >No. * Y O U R * WWW. Which is kept in shape by a nice consortium who wants
> >everyone to be able to see everything.
> 
> And your problem with that is exactly what?

See below. Plus I don't like the idea of "loudest ranter wins". A few of
you in this newsgroup sound more than all Netscape users put together.
Still, soon nobody will be listening to you, because your arguments will be
stale and old. Oh, they already are.

Others will instead try to make the new stuff accessible to the disabled,
and add features that will make the browsers you call bloatware into very
useful home shopping assistants or something like that.
 
> >My WWW is like a trip to the city to buy some stuff on which I will buy
> >stuff from the companies who has the most appealing displays with the stuff
> >I want.
> 
> Well, some people are easily impressed by fluff and flashy ads...

Call it what you will. I prefer to buy my Paul Smith suits from a Paul
Smith shop and not in a cellar or a barn. Most people do. Most people like
service, like being brought their coffee instead of having to pick it up
themselves. Netscape with JavaScript and LiveWire and all the plug-ins and
Java and what have you does a much better job at serving me than does
"your" browsers.

> >Won't happen. Similarly, people won't switch from Netscape and IE.
> 
> Would you find it surprising that people won't switch from Opera, lynx,
> w3-Emacs, Mosaic either..."Download Netscape Now!" indeed.

Nope. People stayed with Betamax as well. Still, I don't see many Betamax
movies in the shelves these days.

//thomas
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