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Article #58576Re: Re- Bad HTML / frame usage
From: Thomas Weigle
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 00:00
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 00:00
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In article <5c22cs$5ci$6@euas20.eua.ericsson.se>, tina@spirou.uab.ericsson.se (Tina Marie Holmboe) wrote: > [Original material] > ==> Author : Thomas Weigle (weigle@snip-to-mail.algonet.se (Thomas Weigle)) > ==> Article : <weigle-ya023180002001972352440001@news.algonet.se> > ==> Newsgroup : comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html > ==> Date : 21 Jan, 00:52:49 > > > > Nah. I offer them that if the particular design that they happen to like > > doesn't suit all browsers, which is quite often the case these days. Most > > of them tell me, once again, that Netscape 2.0 will be just fine. > > And *then* you tell them that in *order* to make the design fit more than one > browser, you need to create duplicate pages ? Sorry for the typo. Should've been "tell them that ..." Does that clarify things a wee bit? They come to use because we offer stuff that smaller firms cannot or won't offer. They want Netscape 2.0 pages. In a perfect world, these pages would work in any browser, but the Web is far from perfect, and given this, they have to take into account what is more important: five percent of the Web or something that will get and keep the visitor's attention during the first ten seconds of his or her stay. Because, as mentioned, with all the people out there just surfing around, you need to offer something special, something that actively gets their attention. Indeed, people looking for information will keep looking for that information, but people just surfing about must be convinced to stay. Which is, once again, why a very multimedial page will be interesting to most people who are out to see something special or interesting and are not interested in long essays (like mine). > >> Its been said before: you allready *HAVE* tools that do this: PostScript > >> and PDF. HTML _was_not_designed_ for what you want to do with it. > > > > No. But it works. > > It does NOT work It does work. It does NOT work with every browser. But read above and learn more about why a company will gladly leave up to 40% of their possibly user base unhappy. > > > What do you think? That they and Microsoft will both lose their market > > I think that attempting to predict anything about the direction(s) the > 'Net' might move in is folly. Which is why sticking to HTML as a standard > is a Smart Idea. It's better to satisfy those who are in a position to make me money today while at the same time trying to convince those responsible for standards that some features should be in HTML--even if you happen to be playing your favorite CD on your computer. At least this is better if you happen to make your money on it. Two years from now, multimedia will be incorporated in HTML. Most companies will be using it. Hopefully there will be some backwards compability, but this is not necessary because if you're not willing to change in a constantly changing environment, you should move. Some of these companies will then have great database solutions for huge amounts of information that they will still be able to use. Others will be content with making minor tweaks to their sites. Most of the companies that we have dealt with will most definitely be considered pioneers two years from now, because they very early predicted that the Web would come alive. Netscape will still exist and make money, but mostly in the intranet sector. MSIE and Apple Cyberdog will be the two most common browsers, and people using them will expect extremely active sites. Don't predict the future with your eyes closed unless you're Tiresias. Then again, many in this newsgroup are keeping their eyes closed. "EMBEDded background sound is a bad thing ... " //thomas -- : Web Designer at Icon Media Lab and generally a nice guy too. : : Work: thomas@iconmedialab.se -- <http://www.iconmedialab.se/> : : Home: weigle@algonet.se -- <http://www.algonet.se/~weigle/> : : Opinions expressed are mine and not those of my employer. : .................................................................
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