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On 24 Jan 1997 10:35:18 GMT, marc@belnet.be (Marc Roger) wrote:

> Since the group be.forsale has been created with an english
> charter and is a multi-lingual group, it is not fair to 
> propose to remove it now with a propsal only in Dutch.  

I must agree with this. But the arguments for the change are also very
valid ones, so I decided to go for a YES vote.

It's definitely preferable to keep our hierarchy multilingual, but
seen the spam it has become clear this will not be an option. :-(

> I consequently dispute the regularity of the group removal 
> procedure and ask for an elaboration from the be.* hierarchy 
> maintainer concerning the procedure to follow for such cases 
> in the future.

Creating groups has always been easier than deleting them. See the
ALT.* hierarchy for examples.

> Also, a ruling excluding the proposer from also being
> the votetaker will increase the fairness of the creation
> procedure (you can't be judge and party).

I agree, but on the other hand it will never be possible to hold a
fair voting ... You'll never be able to have objective votetakers,
unless you appoint someone to hold all the votings. But even then
objectivity will always remain a dream :(

Tom.
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