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vib@tornado.be (Ivo Onraedt) wrote:

>On Sat, 12 Apr 1997 14:35:32 GMT, Gabor.Barna@dg8.cec.be wrote:
>
>>
>>***************************************************
>>***Sorry, please ignore the message below I posted before, It
>>was a setup mistake***
>>***************************************************
>>
>
>In a former mailiing you said you called ping and they confirmed to
>you your account was blocked.
>Now it's a setup-mistake ???
>Could you please be a little more specific ??

Thanks Ivo,

The above message only refers to my last claim that Ping was
preventing access of critics to their newsgroup, but not to all
my previous claims.

To clear things up:

My access to the ping.users and ping.support workgroup is still
working normally: this was a mistake in my own setup.

My internet access is still working up to now, despite the fact
that the support said it will be cut this week-end, but the
week-end isn't finished yet.

BUT my e-mail account is blocked. This was confirmed by the
support and up to now I still can't access to my mailbox (I just
checked).

So I have to take back the fact that they try to control the
ping.users newsgroup (at least not openly), but I am still stuck
otherwise on my e-mail despite the fact that they say they won't
take any action. I am waiting important messages and here I am
without access to my mailbox. This is a clear abuse on their
part, based on the mess they have in their own accounting
service.

I saw your message by scanning the be.providers newsgroup in
search of a replacement for Ping. I will only be able to access
my e-mail at work on Monday.

I tried once more the usenet newsfeed of Arcadis (actually TFI):
it is just as bad as it was before despite all their talk about
improving things. It isn't usenet, it is useless :-)

So I am actively looking for a provider that would have as good
a newsfeed as Ping (actually EUnet) but won't treat their
customers like shit.

I got hold of an old October 96 article and see that the only
other provider that sits on EUnet is Netlink. Anyone hear about
this provider? Unicall, Ontonet, Interweb, Infoboard, netropolis
and Arcadis all sit on TFI, so I can cross them off immediately.
As I can see, there are only 2 other networks besides EUnet and
TFI: Interpac (Skynet, Perceval, Gate71, Tornado, Area013,
Alton, Detesor, NFE, and Zeb), and Innet (Innet). So I am trying
now to figure out the comparative performances of Innet,
Interpac and EUnet.

I still think that to have only one (don't know about Netlink)
provider sitting on such a network as EUnet is a "concurrence
d�loyale" and "abus de position dominante". This means that Ping
is litterally putting their hands on the whole Internet area and
therefore don't have to care about customer services at all.

I am also looking for information about external Usenet newsfeed
such as Super Zippo or Altopia.

Any information welcome.

Thanks again.

Gab

Gabor.Barna@ping.be (with copy to Gabor.Barna@dg8.cec.be please,
to make sure the message escapes Ping's despotic control).