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Re: Pacbell.net blocks mail from Best?

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From: Malcolm Hoar
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 20:02
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In article <9p2hvg$2stp$1@nntp1.ba.best.com>, falconer@best.com (Edward A. Falk) wrote:
>>All of the proxy/MX hosts are semi-open. They're not wide
>>open although there is some potential for abuse. I'm not
>>sure I want to give away the details but it's not exactly
>>a huge secret.
>
>Well, if they made multiple open relay lists, they're
>obviously pretty wide.

Not really. I haven't really looked since the demise of ORBS.
But, most of the time, only one of the 4 machines was listed
by them. And that appeared to be mainly out of spite.

I can't recall the precise details but their "evidence" was
very tenuous and mainly manufactured.

>I don't know why pop-before-smtp can't be used.

Ultimately it can. But you try changing the mail setup
in a manner that will impact up to 20000 users. That is
a HUGE deal!!!

Also, remember that most folks use shell[n].ba.best.com
for POP and smtp.best.com for SMTP. Hence the POP before
SMTP authentication would need to operate across the
different machines. I'll wager that most people using
POP before SMTP have both services running on the same
physical machine. I can imagine a network implementation
would be non-trivial.

And, as I mentioned before, those mail hosts were scheduled
for the big data-center-in-the-sky a long, long time ago.
It's hardly surprising that Best/Verio elected to avoid
going through TWO migrations.

-- 
Malcolm Hoar
malch@malch.com
Kant spell Neetchie
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From: malch@malch.com (Malcolm Hoar)
Newsgroups: best.general
Subject: Re: Pacbell.net blocks mail from Best?
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 20:02:10 GMT
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