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Article #382Re: Pacbell.net blocks mail from Best?
From: Malcolm Hoar
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 20:02
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 20:02
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In article <9p2hvg$2stp$1@nntp1.ba.best.com>, falconer@best.com (Edward A. Falk) wrote: >>All of the proxy/MX hosts are semi-open. They're not wide >>open although there is some potential for abuse. I'm not >>sure I want to give away the details but it's not exactly >>a huge secret. > >Well, if they made multiple open relay lists, they're >obviously pretty wide. Not really. I haven't really looked since the demise of ORBS. But, most of the time, only one of the 4 machines was listed by them. And that appeared to be mainly out of spite. I can't recall the precise details but their "evidence" was very tenuous and mainly manufactured. >I don't know why pop-before-smtp can't be used. Ultimately it can. But you try changing the mail setup in a manner that will impact up to 20000 users. That is a HUGE deal!!! Also, remember that most folks use shell[n].ba.best.com for POP and smtp.best.com for SMTP. Hence the POP before SMTP authentication would need to operate across the different machines. I'll wager that most people using POP before SMTP have both services running on the same physical machine. I can imagine a network implementation would be non-trivial. And, as I mentioned before, those mail hosts were scheduled for the big data-center-in-the-sky a long, long time ago. It's hardly surprising that Best/Verio elected to avoid going through TWO migrations. -- Malcolm Hoar malch@malch.com Kant spell Neetchie
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f9f6d,a6aa5b8c3eec4155 X-Google-Attributes: gidf9f6d,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-09-28 13:02:40 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!216.218.192.242!news.he.net!news-hog.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!enews.sgi.com!news1.best.com!nntp1.ba.best.com!malch From: malch@malch.com (Malcolm Hoar) Newsgroups: best.general Subject: Re: Pacbell.net blocks mail from Best? Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 20:02:10 GMT Organization: Malch Enterprizes Lines: 40 Distribution: best Message-ID: <9p2l01$2svl$1@nntp1.ba.best.com> References: <3BB2A161.C349B997@best.com> <9p069j$2dnk$1@nntp1.ba.best.com> <9p06u4$2dno$1@nntp1.ba.best.com> <9p2hvg$2stp$1@nntp1.ba.best.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-64-172-54-82.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net X-Trace: nntp1.ba.best.com 1001707330 95221 64.172.54.82 (28 Sep 2001 20:02:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@best.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 20:02:10 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.01