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Re: Verio makes news

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From: Milton Brewster
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 23:49
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In article <9p3lh2$1t8s$1@machaut.medieval.org>, 
mccomb@medieval.org says...
> In article <MPG.161d148ebb4f539b989a2a@nntp.best.com>,
> Milton Brewster   <scribble@best.com> wrote:
> >If you're going to call someone a 'bozo,' then you first need to 
> >correctly understand the point he made. 
> 
> This reporter was clearly trolling to have me call some actions
> censorship.  I doubt you're in any position to say otherwise.
> 
> >What I originally posted apparently went right over your head.
> 
> Hardly.  You said that ISPs which offered Usenet should be required
> to offer a minimum standard of service.  Since these ISPs simply
> do not care about Usenet, the easiest way to meet your demand is
> to cease offering Usenet.  I expect this will be their respose to
> you, if any.  It's up to you whether you're happy with the result.
> 
---

I owe you an apology. It seems that I didn't get the real post 
you were responding to,and it apparently wasn't mine. My system 
shows you responding directly to me. 

While this hitch might not be a perfect example of my earlier 
point, it *is* a pretty good illustration. When a server drops 
messages in a thread, it is easy to misunderstand who is saying 
what to whom. This has a bad effect on newsgroup communication. 

I doubt that you are in favor of "censorship." No one really is. 
I tried to respond objectively to your remarks about censorship 
in my post when I observed that slipshod newsgroup service 
actually can create the same result as intentional message 
censorship. 

While I agree that Usenet isn't Best/Verio's primary interest, I 
don't agree with the strategy you propose.  Best should be 
embarrassed over the Usenet service they are now providing. 

I suspect that in a few years, the low level of Usenet service 
provided by many ISPs will lead to laws which require them to 
maintain some minimum service level. While I don't like 
government intrusion, I'm just observing that this is one 
direction where Best/Verio's low standard of service might lead.  
It is probably very much in Best/Verio's best interest to provide 
the level of service that won't generate problems for their 
Business Model in the long run. 


milt b
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From: Milton Brewster  <scribble@best.com>
Newsgroups: best.general
Subject: Re: Verio makes news
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 16:49:21 -0700
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