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Article #405Re: Verio makes news
From: Milton Brewster
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 23:49
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 23:49
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In article <9p3lh2$1t8s$1@machaut.medieval.org>, mccomb@medieval.org says... > In article <MPG.161d148ebb4f539b989a2a@nntp.best.com>, > Milton Brewster <scribble@best.com> wrote: > >If you're going to call someone a 'bozo,' then you first need to > >correctly understand the point he made. > > This reporter was clearly trolling to have me call some actions > censorship. I doubt you're in any position to say otherwise. > > >What I originally posted apparently went right over your head. > > Hardly. You said that ISPs which offered Usenet should be required > to offer a minimum standard of service. Since these ISPs simply > do not care about Usenet, the easiest way to meet your demand is > to cease offering Usenet. I expect this will be their respose to > you, if any. It's up to you whether you're happy with the result. > --- I owe you an apology. It seems that I didn't get the real post you were responding to,and it apparently wasn't mine. My system shows you responding directly to me. While this hitch might not be a perfect example of my earlier point, it *is* a pretty good illustration. When a server drops messages in a thread, it is easy to misunderstand who is saying what to whom. This has a bad effect on newsgroup communication. I doubt that you are in favor of "censorship." No one really is. I tried to respond objectively to your remarks about censorship in my post when I observed that slipshod newsgroup service actually can create the same result as intentional message censorship. While I agree that Usenet isn't Best/Verio's primary interest, I don't agree with the strategy you propose. Best should be embarrassed over the Usenet service they are now providing. I suspect that in a few years, the low level of Usenet service provided by many ISPs will lead to laws which require them to maintain some minimum service level. While I don't like government intrusion, I'm just observing that this is one direction where Best/Verio's low standard of service might lead. It is probably very much in Best/Verio's best interest to provide the level of service that won't generate problems for their Business Model in the long run. milt b
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f9f6d,f7258c7074e2fb84 X-Google-Attributes: gidf9f6d,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-09-29 16:49:01 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!newshub2.rdc1.sfba.home.com!news.home.com!enews.sgi.com!news1.best.com!nntp1.ba.best.com!not-for-mail From: Milton Brewster <scribble@best.com> Newsgroups: best.general Subject: Re: Verio makes news Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 16:49:21 -0700 Organization: lying socialist weasels Lines: 52 Distribution: best Message-ID: <MPG.161eac5aa335c209989a2e@nntp.best.com> References: <MPG.161310bed15907b1989a23@nntp.best.com> <9p0031$29vc$1@nntp1.ba.best.com> <9p0ld3$1qvg$1@machaut.medieval.org> <MPG.161d148ebb4f539b989a2a@nntp.best.com> <9p3lh2$1t8s$1@machaut.medieval.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: sdn-ar-007casjosp209.dialsprint.net X-Trace: nntp1.ba.best.com 1001807337 14210 63.180.74.121 (29 Sep 2001 23:48:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@best.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 23:48:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v2.30