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Re: Verio makes news

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From: Sam Habash
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 01:45
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Milton Brewster <scribble@best.com> wrote:

: I'm not nearly as knowledgeable about either Verio, or the ISP 
: business as you and other regulars are.

nearly? :-)

: Perhaps it isn't really serious.  All I know, is that in general, 
: a business must offer a reliable, compeditive service to stay in 
: business

It helps, but none of these are absolute requirements.

There are people who will pay $$$ for non-competitive offerings
if there are features (better support, not wanting to feel
like one of the herd) that are worth it for them.  Others will
pay very little and be content with mediocrity, or not content.
Complaints in your isp.general group are free.

: and that most failed businesses collapse from the inside and not 
: from competition. 

Most failed businesses have problems with assumptions in their
plan and/or with the execution, both affected by internal and
external factors.  It's silly to generalize further.

: There is probably a lower-bound service minimum that will kill 
: Verio if it crosses over. For instance, their Usenet service is 
: dropping more than half the posts available to us on a daily 
: basis,

Who really gives a shit, honestly?  That you continue to put
up with it speaks more about your competence than theirs.

: and that makes it impossible for anyone using Verio to 
: follow ANY newsgroup thread and know they have seen all the posts 
: in that thread.

Their loss, and yours, because you're still here.  Too bad the
half that didn't get dropped have included your inanities.

: A newsgroup service is no use to anybody, if they can't follow the 
: threads they're interested in.  It's no good to carry 40,000 newsgroups 
: if you don't retrieve the messages available for those newsgroups. 

And how does this matter to them again?  Oh, because you'll leave...
well...leave already.

: I'm sure there are worse service examples, but my point is that 
: Verio's product is no longer reliable OR compeditive, 

What you were using wasn't a Verio product, but a legacy "Best"
one.  Verio products may or may not get Usenet access...it's obviously
an afterthought.

: and this alone is enough to guarantee that Verio would fail even 
: in the best marketplace. Further, the company seems to be collapsing 
: from the inside. 

Didn't know Verio's primary business was usenet service.  I'm sure
others have made that point now...

: This means they won't be able to fix it. I'm curious about how this 
: trainwreck will actually take place, but paying $30/mo for excreable 
: Usenet access might drive me away first.

"might"?  My god, you just Don't Get It.

--Sam
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