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Re: Neo-Nazi's? Just say no!

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From: Chris Daley
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 00:00
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Ed Martini wrote:
> 
> >From: Myriam Diamond <diamond@cirque.geog.utoronto.ca>
> >      David A. Welch <welch@lake.wave.scar.utoronto.ca>
> >      Stanley Jeffers <fs300017@sol.yorku.ca>
> 
> >A group of neo-nazis are trying to form a newsgroup on Usenet called
> >rec.music.white-power, so that they can get their message of hate out to
> >young people using the Internet.  Newsgroups are public discussion areas
> >on the Internet and their formation requires enough support from the
> >Internet community.
> >
> >EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU HAS ONE VOTE when it comes to creating a
> >new Usenet group. I hope you will vote NO and thereby tell these Nazis you
> >don't want their stuff on the net. Below is the procedure, please repost
> >my plea and get the NO vote out.   This is my personal opinion.  If you
> >want to see the official call for votes, you can read in news.group or ask
> >me for a copy of the notice calling for votes.
> >
> >Do _not_ vote twice - that would constitute voting fraud.
> >
> >HOW TO VOTE:
> >
> >Send E-MAIL (posts to a newsgroup are invalid) to:
> >
> >        music-vote@sub-rosa.com
> >
> >This is an impartial, third-party vote taker.
> >
> >Do not REPLY to THIS message, if you are trying to vote.  Please do not
> >assume that just replying to this message will work. Check the address
> >before you mail your vote.  Your mail message should contain only one
> >statement:
> >
> >        I vote NO on rec.music.white-power
> >
> >I REALLY HOPE YOU VOTE NO!
> >
> >Vote counting is automated.  Failure to follow these directions may
> >mean that your vote does not get counted.  If you do not receive an
> >acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker
> >about the problem.  It's your responsibility to make sure your vote
> >is registered correctly.
> >
> >Here's what Canada's George Burdi, of the neo-Nazi Heritage Front, had to
> >say about this vote, on February 21, on his RESISTANCE mailing list:
> >
> >        "There is a call for votes
> >        coming on rec.music.white-power in the next week
> >        or so, and you will be notified in a special issue of
> >        RREN exactly what to do.  FOLLOW THE
> >        INSTRUCTIONS TO THE LETTER.  Let me be
> >        perfectly blunt and state that we have more than
> >        enough "net-nazis" to win this thing hands-down.
> >        But every one of you must vote YES!  And just
> >        voting yes means nothing unless you do it properly.
> >        So you have been forewarned.  The instructions
> >        are coming to your email box soon, and they
> >        are not complicated.  Just follow them as told,
> >        and we will have a WP music newsgroup finally!"
> >
> >If Mr. Burdi's confidence disturbs you, please give this letter the
> >_widest_ possible distribution, and help us deliver the largest NO vote in
> >the history of UseNet.
> >
> >If you would like more detailed information on why you should vote no,
> >check out http://nizkor.almanac.bc.ca - although it should be noted that
> >the Nizkor Project has no connection to this personal plea."
> >
> >Gary Romalis
> >============================================================
> >
> >David A. Welch
> >Associate Professor of Political Science
> >University of Toronto
> >100 St. George St.
> >Toronto, Ont.  M5S 3G3  Canada
> >416-287-7308 (voice)
> >416-466-4990 (fax)
> >welch@lake.scar.utoronto.ca
> >http://www.scar.utoronto.ca/~welch
> >
> >Kenneth I. MacDonald
> >Department of Geography
> >Scarborough Campus
> >University of Toronto
> >1265 Military Trail
> >Scarborough, Ontario
> >CANADA M1C 1A4
> >(416) 287-7309
> >(416) 287-7283 fax
> >macdonald@tsunami.scar.utoronto.ca
> >
> >William S. Lynn
> >Department of Geography
> >University of Minnesota
> >414 Social Science
> >Minneapolis, MN  55455
> >612/625-6080
> >612/624-1044 (fax)
> >lynn0003@gold.tc.umn.edu
> >
> 
> Monika Marcovici
> Made by Magik Productions
> The Landing
> Suite 500, 375 Water Street
> Vancouver, B.C V6B 5K8
> Tel. (604)685-4804 Fax. (604)685-4893

I received the same post from a friend of mine a while back.

Free speech is free speech.  Period.

If we don't want them censoring our speech, we can't censor theirs, no 
matter who they are.  That's the only way this will work.

We may not always be happy with the results, but it sure beats the 
alternatives!

Chris Daley
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From: Chris Daley <cdaley@best.com>
Subject: Re: Neo-Nazi's?  Just say no!
Date: 1996/04/02
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