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Article #29089Re: Protocals, man-apes & censors
From: David Kristofferson
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1991 02:13
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1991 02:13
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> The time has come when I feel that I must speak up and protest the > domineering attitude coming from Mr. Kristofferson in his management > of this board. The membership of the board has the ability to speak > out and flame down or ignore any topics which may be considered > inappropriate. Ouch, right on the chin 8-). You are right that we are all free to express our opinions, and my freely expressed opinion remains that I still disagree with the thousand flowers approach. This is/was not meant to be "brutal" disagreement, but it is disagreement nonetheless. I apologize if my reply seemed too harsh, but I stand my ground on the idea itself. On the serious "chimp" issue, I have not made it through all of my mail file yet today, but the opinion on "appropriateness" of this discussion topic is running about 50-50 on the four or so messages that I have seen so far. I felt the need to **mention** that this might be inappropriate because it *is* my job to oversee these groups. I also said in my message that I am *not* trying to censor things. What readers do not see (but I do because I handle the mail for this system and get outside comments all the time) is a continual expression of irritation to me on the part of our readers when stuff like this comes up. Personally, I love free-wheeling discussions like the above, but then I am constantly told that this makes the newsgroups a waste of time for "serious scientists." I am told that the "quality of the discourse is low", etc., etc. I try my best to satisfy what appears to be the majority opinion of our users on the newsgroup, and I am NOT trying to impose my personal opinion. I just don't want to see scores of people start UNSUBSCRIBING because a minority decides to talk about this particular topic. I understand that there is *some* legitimate scientific merit to this topic and do not need to be reminded about openmindedness, etc. IF THIS IS REALLY WHAT ***MOST*** OF YOU WANT TO DO YOU ARE FREE TO DO IT! 8-)8-)8-) I guess that I am just surprised that there are so many more topics that "good scientists" could discuss on the newsgroups and yet to date have not. Does this mean that we in the scientific community also glance surreptiously at the National Enquirer as we slink past the grocery store check out line 8-). There are dozens of burning issues in molecular biology computing alone, not to mention molecular biology as a whole, which could be discussed at length, but it still takes mating humans and monkeys to get us off our duffs and participate????? Curious .... Nonetheless BIONEWS/bionet.general is supposed to be for general announcements, not for these kinds of chats. The discussion could be continued on MOLECULAR-EVOLUTION without anyone losing any freedom of expression or irritating those that aren't turned on by this topic 8-). In fact if someone wants to propose and moderate a HUMAN/CHIMP HYBRID newsgroup I will dutifully follow procedure and put it out to a vote of our readership. I do think that most of the readers on this group based on my past feedback would rather have this discussion take place in a different forum if it continues at all though. Sincerely, Mr. David Kristofferson, Ph.D. GenBank Manager kristoff@genbank.bio.net
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1119a6,6b1b16ca5ddb68a0 X-Google-Attributes: gid1119a6,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1991-07-18 00:27:58 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmdzi!unido!mcsun!uunet!stanford.edu!agate!bionet!kristoff From: kristoff@genbank.bio.net (David Kristofferson) Newsgroups: bionet.general Subject: Re: Protocals, man-apes & censors Message-ID: <Jul.17.19.13.21.1991.23373@genbank.bio.net> Date: 18 Jul 91 02:13:21 GMT References: <910717114735.382c@vax.wi.edu> Distribution: bionet Organization: GenBank Online Service Lines: 63