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Article #112Re: Do PrePrints and PostPrints Need a Copyright Licence?
From: Stevan Harnad
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 17:21
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 17:21
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On Fri, 21 Oct 2005, Michael Carroll wrote: > Stevan Harnad wrote: > > SH: <Self-archive and leave well enough alone. CC licenses are for other > > purposes, not those of OA self-archiving of either preprints or > > postprints. (E.g., they are fine for OA publishing.)>> > > I disagree. Creative Commons licenses clarify and/or enlarge the > user's rights with respect to an article, whether that article is > published or archived online. [Disclosure, I'm on the Creative Commons > Board.] I agree with Michael that it is always much better if freely accessible online work has a CC license. But I am sure Michael will not disagree that, even more important is that the work should be freely accessible online. And most of the OA movement's target content -- 85% of the annual 2.5 million articles published in the world's 24,000 peer-reviewed journals -- is not yet freely accessible online, because its authors have not self-archived them. And their reason is either (1) that they are worried about conflict with their publisher's copyright agreement or (2) that they find just self-archiving it already too much to do (or both reasons). Hence what is needed is not more things for these authors to worry about and/or do, to deter them still further. > I agree with Stevan that self-archiving under terms that are > currently feasible (such as under a green publisher's copyright > agreement) is a desirable first step and should be done immediately. > But I do not agree that the long-term needs of open access have been > fully met by a self-archived article made available under such terms. I am concerned about getting the 85% to take that first step. Then we can work on optimizing it. (Moreover, long-term issues are more pressing for the publisher's official version: the self-archived draft is mainly an immediate-access supplement for those who cannot afford the publisher's version. It is redundant; insofar as long-term preservation is concerned.) > > When a green publisher permits an author to post some version of the > article online, the publisher is silent about what rights the users have > with respect to the article. Copyright lawyers interpret the green > publisher's permission to the author as also the grant of an implied > license to the public. This implied license is important because nearly > every activity is what I call a "copyright event" because it implicates > the rights of the copyright owner. [For more on this concept, see > http://law.bepress.com/villanovalwps/papers/art34/] If the publisher says "go ahead and make it freely accessible on the web" then being able to access it on the web comes with the territory. Anything else sounds like a Shylockian koan; such as "I sell you this cigarette to smoke, but not inhale..." > But the scope of the implied license that a green publisher grants to > the public remains fuzzy. Does the reader have a right to make a RAM > copy of the article in order to read it? Probably. Doesn't matter: it's accessible online 24/7: Certainly nothing to detain the 85% one microsecond longer for. > Does the reader > have a right to print the article or save a copy to her hard drive for > personal use? Probably. Same as above. > May the reader print out 50 copies and > circulate them at a conference on the theory that each attendee could > have printed out an individual copy? Hard to say. Important: This right is not even at issue. OA is about free online access for all. It is not about paper access. > May an institutional > repository repost a copy found on an author's personal web site? > Unclear. Let them just link to the URL. (Again, comes with the online territory. These are relics of papyrocentric thinking.) > A Creative Commons license answers all of the above questions expressly > and in the affirmative. The cause of open access is well-served when an > author retains sufficient rights to grant a Creative Commons license and > does so. But for the time being, it is better than an author with the > limited rights that a green publisher has granted exercise those rights > by self-archiving today. We can leave for another round what steps > authors, their employing institutions or their funders might take to > ensure that authors have the right to grant a Creative Commons license > to the public. As I see it; the problem now is the missing 85%, not the missing right to print 50 copies or to re-post those non-existent documents. Nor should the already vastly overdue 85% and their lost cumulative impact be delayed for one microsecond longer to hold out for these extras, which are not only unneeded but risk deterring authors (and publishers). > 2. Pre-prints/Post-prints. > > This thread got started by the suggestion that a Creative Commons > license could be attached to a pre-print even though the author has > transferred all copyright interest in the article to a publisher. The > posts from Charles Oppenheim and Steve Hitchcock below correctly state > the issues. Although technically distinct, the copyrights in the > pre-print and the post-print overlap. > > The important point to understand is that copyright grants the owner > the right to control exact duplicates and versions that are > "substantially similar" to the copyrighted work. (This is under U.S. > law, but most other jurisdictions similarly define the scope of > copyright). A pre-print will normally be substantially similar to the > post-print. Therefore, when an author transfers the *exclusive* rights > in the work to a publisher, the author precludes herself from making > copies or distributing copies of any substantially similar versions of > the work as well. > > [For example, the singer John Fogerty of Credence Clearwater Revival > fame was sued by a record company, which had acquired the copyright in > his song "Run Through the Jungle". The company claimed that Fogerty's > later song "The Old Man Down the Road" was substantially similar to the > former song and that Fogerty had therefore infringed the copyright that > Fogerty had signed away.] > > Consequently, whether an author may grant the public a Creative Commons > license depends upon the rights the author has at the time of the grant. > As Charles Oppenheim notes, if the author grants a Creative Commons > license in the article prior to transferring copyright to the publisher, > the publisher takes the copyright subject to that license. But before > doing this, authors should read the terms of the publication agreement > they are signing. Some of these agreements call upon the author to > declare that no prior licenses have been granted. Exactly. And that is an excellent reason not to *have* any prior agreements: just self-archive the preprint, before submission to the journal, nakedly, if you wish. But the preprint is not the target of OA: The postprint is. Nothing should put the publisher's acceptance at needless risk. Advice to do that simply deters authors fro, self-archiving at all; preprint or postprint. > Even when the agreement has such a provision, however, publishers will > sometimes agree to take the copyright subject to a previously-granted > license. For example, every researcher who accepts money from NIH or > any other U.S. government agency grants to the U.S. government a > non-exclusive license to publish and reproduce the work. This license is > granted prior to any agreement that the author enters into with a > publisher and therefore published papers funded by NIH research are > subject to the USG's license. Publishers are fully aware of the > government's license and therefore the terms of any copyright agreement > signed by a USG-funded researcher that purports to give all rights to > the publisher has to be interpreted accordingly. "Sometimes" is not a sufficient reassurance for the non-self-archiving 85%... > With that background, let's return to the original question. Once an > author signs a publication agreement, can that author grant a Creative > Commons license in the pre-print? It depends upon the terms of the > agreement, as modified by any addendums. Currently, under most > publication agreements, the author does not retain sufficient rights to > grant a Creative Commons license in either the post-print or the > pre-print after transferring copyright to the publisher. QED. And now we've covered both the preprint and the postprint. > Of course, the author retains the right that all members of the public > have to make a fair use of the article or exercise a fair dealing > privilege, but it is unclear whether this privilege would permit posting > of the pre-print without authorization from a publisher that owns the > copyright in the post-print. For the 93% of journals that are either preprint or postprint this is all moot or irrelevant. For the 7% that are not green, please see the self-archiving FAQ. But 85% of 93% would still be a nice first step (if no one complicates it by advising doing more than necessary, or even putting the 93% green lights at risk!) Stevan Harnad > > > On Mon, 17 Oct 2005, Charles Oppenheim wrote: > > > If I offer something under a CC licence and then subsequently agree > to a > > more restrictive publisher's licence, I have set up an > incompatibility... > > The earlier licence over-rides the second. In other words, any > subsequent > > more restrictive licence with a publisher would have no validity and > > would be unenforceable by the publisher. Mind you, the publisher > would > > be perfectly entitled to be annoyed with the author, and may refuse > to > > publish the article and/or refuse to ever have dealings with that > author > > again in the future. > > On Mon, 17 Oct 2005, Steve Hitchcock wrote: > > > Roger Clarke proposes that a Creative Commons (CC) licence or similar > for > > self-archived preprints and postprints; Stevan Harnad suggests that > such a > > licence would be a good idea for self-archived preprints only. > Neither > > makes clear exactly why this would be a good thing. Stevan says it is > "to > > *protect* it (the preprint) until the final postprint is ready". But > > > protection isn't the purpose of CC licenses. Protection is vested > with the > > author of a new work in implicit copyright, and self-archiving does > not > > remove that protection. The issue is that authors of self-archived > papers > > typically want to allow users more rights, and to state something to > this > > effect. > > > > This recent article by an admitted non-expert on CC may be helpful to > those > > in seeking similar enlightenment: > > "Creative Commons is actually more about protecting the audience > you're > > hoping will use your work than it is about protecting you. You still > hold > > on to whatever rights you reserve, but you're abandoning some of > those > > rights on purpose." > > Does Creative Commons free your content? > > http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3000_7-6357305-1.html?tag=nl.e501 > > > > To be fair, Roger Clarke makes this point too, but while his main > focus > > seems to be on the position regarding rights transfer to a publisher, > I'm > > not sure whether in this situation a CC licence is necessary or > desirable, > > since it may be a complicating factor. > > > > In Roger's First Monday article the 'process envisaged' in the role > of the > > copyright licence through pre-publication, review and formal > publication > > reaches this point re. the publisher: > > > > "Irrespective of which approach the publisher adopts, the copyright > > arrangements in respect of the final version of the article do not > affect > > the (possibly many) existing licences relating to the (Pr)ePrint. Nor > do > > they affect the ongoing availability of the (Pr)ePrint and of > licences in > > relation to it. They may, however, preclude the provision of later > versions > > of the work, and in particular of the version that is to appear in > the > > refereed venue." > > > > Someone with more legal expertise than me could comment on whether it > is > > correct to say that the copyright arrangement with a publisher *does > not* > > affect the existing (e.g. CC) licences relating to the (Pr)ePrint. > Since it > > is likely to be more restrictive then it seems to undermine the point > of > > any prior licence. > > > > There are good arguments both for CC licences and, to avoid > disrupting the > > path to publication, for sticking with typical publisher licences > (amended > > to allow self-archiving) for postprints. Stevan's position, partly > amended > > here, has always been that CC licences are optional but unnecessary > for > > self-archived works that are intended for publication. That would > appear to > > remain a reasonable recommendation until there is greater clarity > about > > what authors of self-archived papers want to achieve with their > inherent > > rights in this new age of wide online dissemination, and > clarification of > > the legal position of rights statements regarding successive versions > and > > derivative works. > > > > Steve Hitchcock > > IAM Group, School of Electronics and Computer Science > > University of Southampton, SO17 1BJ, UK > > Email: sh94r@ecs.soton.ac.uk > > Tel: +44 (0)23 8059 3256 Fax: +44 (0)23 8059 2865 > > > > > > At 20:23 16/10/2005, Stevan Harnad wrote: > > >As Roger Clarke's email form letter to Repository Managers is being > > >circulated quite widely, I would accordingly like to make these > comments > > >and suggestions publicly: > > > > > >(1) For the unrefereed, unpublished preprint, it is a good idea to > do > > >as Roger recommends: to adopt some form of provisional Creative > Commons > > >License rather than just putting it "nakedly" on the Web when > self-archiving > > >it. > > > > > > http://creativecommons.org/licenses/ > > > > > >(2) This does not apply, however,, to the final, refereed, > accepted, > > >published draft (the postprint), which is published in a journal, > which > > >will have its own copyright transfer agreement, signed with the > publisher, > > >and which is the primary target of the Open Access movement. > > > > > > "Apercus of WOS Meeting: Making Ends Meet in the Creative > Commons" > > > http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/3798.html > > > > > >Now some comments: > > > > > >On Sun, 16 Oct 2005, Antonella De Robbio wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Stevan > > > > > > > > I received this mail below from Roger Clarke, a Visiting > Professor in Info > > > > Science & Eng Australian National University, Visiting Professor > in the > > > > eCommerce Program, University of Hong Kong and also Visiting > Professor in > > > > the Cyberspace Law & Policy Centre Uni of NSW. > > > > I haven't yet reply to him because I have been away and precisely > I have > > > > been as Italian delegate at UNESCO 33.rd general conference where > we have > > > > presented an Open Access resolution as Italian UNESCO > Commission. > > > > Well, I am leaving for Geneva at OAI4 next days where I will > organise the > > > > first E-LIS conference too, at the end of OAI4 event. > > > > I think we must reply to this professor, and so I thought you are > the best > > > > OAIperson who can do it. > > > > I will answer to him too, later, when I will come back to my > conferences > > > > in Geneva. > > > > Please look at this letter, he refers to some his articles on > FirstMOnday > > > > and others.. > > > > > > > > If you reply please put me in cc, so we could be coordinate in > our > > > > actions. > > > > > >My replies appear below: > > > > > > > Thank you! > > > > Antonella De Robbio > > > > E-LIS manager > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > > From: Roger Clarke <Roger.Clarke AT xamax.com.au> > > > > To: eprints@dois.it > > > > Subject: PrePrints and PostPrints Need a Copyright > > > > Licence > > > > > > > > Dear ePrint Repository Manager > > > > > > > > The OA/ePrints/Repository movement is very important, and > developing > > > very well. > > > > > > > > But there's a gap in the strategy. > > > > > > > > When an ePrint is downloaded, it's likely that an implicit > copyright > > > > licence comes into existence. There's a lack of clarity about > the > > > > terms that courts might infer to be in such a licence. And > that's > > > > dangerous. > > > > > >It's not *terribly* dangerous, and courts have not much to do with > it: > > >Physicists > > >and computer scientists have been posting "naked" papers online for > over a > > >decade > > >and a half (hundreds of thousands of papers) with no problems. > > > > > >But for the unpublished, unrefereed, not-yet-copyright-protected > > >preprints, it is > > >a good idea to adopt one of the Copyright Commons Licenses to > protect it until > > >the final postprint is ready, accepted by the journal, and > thenceforward > > >covered by the journal's copyright agreement. > > > > > > http://creativecommons.org/licenses/ > > > > > >It is somewhat misleading, though, to say that "eprints," > generically, need a > > >separate license: The preprints do, the postprints do not. > > > > > > > In a paper published in First Monday in August 2005, I analysed > the > > > > requirements for a copyright licence for Pre-Prints. I took care > to > > > > balance the interests of authors, journal-publishers, and the > reading > > > > public. Details of the paper are below. > > > > > >I have read the paper, and most of it is not pertinent to published > > > >postprints. > > > > > > > In a further short paper, I've now extended that analysis to > address > > > > Post-Prints as well. Details of that paper are also below. > > > > > > > > I'd like to submit a recommendation to the 'peak body' of ePrint > > > > Repository Managers; but I haven't been able to find such an > > > > association. > > > > > > > > So I'm approaching each ePrint Repository Manager directly, with > the > > > > following suggestions: > > > > - recommend to authors that they make this licence-type > available > > > > for all PrePrints and PostPrints; > > > > > >Recommendations for naked preprints are welcome, but the postprints > are > > >already > > >covered by publisher copyright. > > > > > > > - provide guidance and support to authors to enable them to do > so > > > > with a minimum of effort; and > > > > > >The guidance should clearly state that this is only pertinent to the > > > >unpublished > > >preprint. > > > > > > > - consider making the availability of this licence-type a > default > > > > for all papers placed in repositories. > > > > > >As the primary target to Open Access Institutional Repositories is > > >not unrefereed preprints but published postprints, the license > should > > >certainly not be incorporated as a default option. It will only > create > > >confusion in the case of the postprint, with the agreement already > signed > > >with the publisher. > > > > > > > THE ANALYSIS RE PRE-PRINTS: > > > > Clarke R. (2005) 'A Proposal for an Open Content Licence for > > > > Research Paper (Pr)ePrints' First Monday 10, 8 (August 2005), > at > > > > http://firstmonday.org/issues/issue10_8/clarke/index.html > > > > > > > > The Post-Print of the paper is at: > > > > http://www.anu.edu.au/people/Roger.Clarke/EC/PrePrLic.html > > > > The Pre-Print of the paper (of 1 May 2005) is at: > > > > http://www.anu.edu.au/people/Roger.Clarke/EC/PrePrLic050501.html > > > > > > > > > THE ANALYSIS RE POST-PRINTS: > > > > Clarke R. (2005) 'A Standard Copyright Licence for PostPrints' > > > > Xamax Consultancy Pty Ltd, 26 August 2005, at > > > > http://www.anu.edu.au/people/Roger.Clarke/EC/PostPrLic.html > > > > > > > > THE RECOMMENDED LICENCE-TYPE IS: > > > > Creative Commons - Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 2.0 > > > > US - http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.5/ > > > > and its equivalents, e.g. > > > > UK - http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/uk/ > > > > FR - http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/fr/ > > > > AU - http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.1/au/ > > > > > >These CC licenses are not applicable to articles that are already > under > > >a publisher's copyright agreement. Nor should anyone imply -- at a > time > > >when self-archiving of postprints is still only at 15%, even though > 70% > > >of journals already endorse postprint self-archiving, and 23% more > endorse > > >preprint self-archiving -- that the postprint author need do > anything > > >more than self-archive his postprint. Authors don't need more > burdens, > > >nor more worries (they are already needlessly worried about whether > > >they may self-archive at all). Nor should they be advised > (incorrectly) > > >that in order to self-archive their postprints, they need to > negotiate a > > >different copyright agreement with their publishers. Nor should > copyright > > >licenses be applied to their preprints that might contradict the > copyright > > >agreement that they will be signing for their postprints. > > > > > >In general, copyright is a red herring for Open Access. Yes, make > sure > > >your text > > >is copyright-protected while it's a preprint, but the postprint has > no more > > >copyright problem if it is self-archived than it used to have when > it was not. > > >That is what the copyright agreement with the publisher is for. > > > > > >See the eprint self-archiving FAQ items on copyright: > > > > > > http://www.eprints.org/openaccess/self-faq/ > > > > > >Stevan Harnad > > > > > > > Other national licences are at: > > > > http://creativecommons.org/worldwide/ > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Roger Clarke > http://www.anu.edu.au/people/Roger.Clarke/ > > > > > > > > Xamax Consultancy Pty Ltd 78 Sidaway St, Chapman ACT 2611 > AUSTRALIA > > > > Tel: +61 2 6288 1472, and 6288 6916 > > > > mailto:Roger.Clarke@xamax.com.au > http://www.xamax.com.au/ > > > > > > > > Visiting Professor in Info Science & Eng Australian National > University > > > > Visiting Professor in the eCommerce Program University of > Hong Kong > > > > Visiting Professor in the Cyberspace Law & Policy Centre Uni > of NSW > > > > > > > > Michael W. Carroll > Associate Professor of Law > Villanova University School of Law > 299 N. Spring Mill Road > Villanova, PA 19085 > 610-519-7088 (voice) > 610-519-5672 (fax) > Research papers at > http://ssrn.com/author=330326 > http://law.bepress.com/villanovalwps/ > > See also www.creativecommons.org >
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X-Google-Thread: f8671,33b09d3ed3f6f536 X-Google-Attributes: gidf8671,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Newsgroups: bionet.journals.note Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 18:21:20 +0100 From: Stevan Harnad <harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk> To: American Scientist Open Access Forum <AMERICAN-SCIENTIST-OPEN-ACCESS-FORUM@LISTSERVER.SIGMAXI.ORG> Subject: Re: Do PrePrints and PostPrints Need a Copyright Licence? In-Reply-To: <s358d787.023@VLSMAIL1.law.villanova.edu> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0510221746460.19449-100000@login.ecs.soton.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NNTP-Posting-Host: login.ecs.soton.ac.uk X-Trace: 22 Oct 2005 18:21:22 GMT, login.ecs.soton.ac.uk Lines: 559 Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!fu-berlin.de!feed1.jnfs.ja.net!jnfs.ja.net!news-spool.soton.ac.uk!news.ecs.soton.ac.uk!login.ecs.soton.ac.uk!harnad