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Bulletin_# 71  From:  HARPER@EARN.FINUH  4 Feb 1988  UPLOADING files
Date: 4 Feb 1988
From: HARPER@EARN.FINUH
To: seqnet@UK.AC.CAM.PHX
Subject: UPLOADING files

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                    TITLE: HOT UPLOAD FINNISH STYLE
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    I  was  reading in BIONET that someone was having problems  with
    PROCOMM. It sounded that the excess characters where coming from
    a noisy phoneline. PROCOMM has the ability to UPLOAD texts which
    you have prepared off line... which is perhaps the best to enter
    sequence  data.   The  PG  UP  key  will  give  you  a  list  of
    possibilities... for texts like this one I am writing now choice
    #7 (ascii/upload) should put the prepared text in with few or no
    errors.  If  you  want accuracy (CRC) error  checking  then  the
    choice  would  be  KERMIT...  but now for  something  completely
    different!!!!!

    Here   is something to make your lives easy...  a simple  method
    for uploading onto bulletin boards,  or E-mail scratchpads.  The
    method  involves using SIDEKICK to  PASTE things  straight  into
    your work area. Here are the instructions.

    1 Open the SIDEKICK Notepad.
    2 Write your text
    3 Mark the beginning of the text with CTRL K B
    4 Mark the end of the text with CTRL K K
    5 Set the BLOCK to be PASTED with CTRL K E
    6 When asked "Press key to paste with" select function key F5
    7 When asked BLOCK or LINE mode choose B for BLOCK
    8 Hit ESC to get out of SIDEKICK
    9  Get to the place where you want to add a message, and  wait
    for  the the system to tell you to enter text.
    10  Hit   the   function key F5 and the text  will   appear   in
    your scratch pad.

Simple and very effective...  highly recommended. You  need  SIDKICK
v 1.5 onwards,  older versions don't  have  the PASTE facility.

-=ROB=-

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From: HARPER@EARN.FINUH
To: seqnet@UK.AC.CAM.PHX
Subject: We are "backwards" in Finland

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On our VAX we have a mailing facility called Gmail, which can be
used for sending mail through different GATEWAYS. You have the
ability to do a CHECK ADDRESS to make sure that the ID@NODE is
correct. So when I run a CHKADD on SEQNET@UK.AC.CAM.PHX I get the
following:
gMail> chkadd seqnet@uk.ac.cam.phx
%gMAIL-E-NOIMPPROT, no implicit protocol defined
for address 'SEQNET@UK.AC.CAM.PHX'
%gMAIL-E-NULLADDR, no valid addresses found.

A friend from CERN said that you may need to REVERSE the order of
the NODE when you are sending messages from EARN to the UK.
So if I REVERSE the order to SEQNET@PHX.CAM.AC.UK and run a
CHKADD then Gmail give the following reply.

gMail> chkadd seqnet@phx.cam.ac.uk
%gMAIL-I-ADDR, gMail address: 'UKACRLGATE%"SEQNET@PHX.CAM.AC.UK"'

This is a valid address from here in Finland and messages sent to
this address get delivered. I hope this is of help to other
EUROPEANS on EARN. JANET most likely is an entirely different
kettle of fish.

Rob "in reverse" Harper