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Article #2855comments on Jean's models proposals
From: rd
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1993 15:38
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1993 15:38
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Here are some comments on Jean's ideas for the new models. First, in reply to Lisa, yes ?Map would replace ?Chromosome and ?Linkage_group. Also, I guess that Refers_to in the ?Clone and ?YAC models should be the same as Also in the ?Map model. I like the 2nd level map tag idea very much (RULE 1). Very natural. Better than any of the ideas we have discussed before. I support Inside, Outside. Is Contains the same as Inside, or does it refer to an interval within and interval? You could consider: Overlaps, Does_not_overlap for 2 intervals Requiring more thought: Order, taking a sequence of mappable objects left -> right after the next tag. Each sequence would have guaranteed order Minor point: as we discussed, you might have some other classes than Locus specifically in ?Map. I also strongly support ?map_location and ?map_error, though I would prefer to maintain upper case for models, i.e. ?Map_location and ?Map_error (a minor point since you never see them except in models.wrm). But I am not sure about Multi_position. What is that for, and how will it be used? The only area I disagree is over colours (RULE 3). I think there is no natural link from LIGHTBLUE to LIGHTGREEN, and it is a waste of a precious primary hue. I propose WHITE on BLUE for the object picked, and LIGHTBLUE background for neighbours. WHITE on BLUE (inverted) is much more striking, and I think the primary pick should be striking. I agree entirely that neighbours should be found on the fly. This is done a little in pmap and fmap already (e.g. the probes in pmap). The time is negligible. Also I disagree with the map data linked coloring scheme. We find it VERY useful to see the Inside-related objects coloured one colour, and Outside-related objects another colour. I liked LIGHTBLUE and LIGHTGREEN, but I guess we have preempted LIGHTBLUE. We could use CYAN and GREEN if you want. I would prefer to still see this primary information if objects are unhappy. Normally that allows you to assess why they are unhappy. What about changing the foreground colour to RED if things are unhappy? Alternatively, it would be fine to be able to switch on and off your proposed red colouring with a button. I see potential for the LIGHTRED variant, though I am not sure how it will be determined. The reason for being able to hide the red colouring is that red objects are very arresting, and often when working with raw data you want to be able to leave conflicting data in place without it dominating your field of view (cf Bob's approach to sequence editing during assembly). I agree we definitely want a map to be able to contain another Map (RULE 2). There are various ways this might work for display. I can imagine (1) giving a singular linear transformation, perhaps by defining where the endpoints of the contained map (Extent values) lie on the containing map. (2) piecewise linear interpolation, tying all shared loci in the contained map to their locations in the containing map, and interpolating in between (as with the physical map in the new worm gmap display). Note that there are likely to be conflicts when doing this. (3) more complicated things - like specifying explicitly a non-linear transformation (splines?). Richard
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f6d40,1e0fbddecef5b95a,start X-Google-Attributes: gidf6d40,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1993-11-06 08:05:16 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmd.de!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uunet!biosci!sanger.ac.uk!rd From: rd@sanger.ac.uk Newsgroups: bionet.software.acedb Subject: comments on Jean's models proposals Message-ID: <9311061538.AA06655@sanger.ac.uk> Date: 6 Nov 93 15:38:05 GMT Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: bionet Lines: 69