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3 total messages Started by Chia Hung Thu, 26 Feb 2004 08:40
Fragmentation Fault
#89
Author: Chia Hung
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 08:40
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Hi, AceDB gurus,

    I am currently using AceDB v. 4.9h on a Dell dual Xeon processor (I
Don't know the RAM size) running RedHat Linux 8 with Gnome window
manager/desktop manager. Both AceDB program and the databases are located on
a remote machine. I am using the Linux box pretty much as a terminal.

    My database is a bacterial genome of ~ 5 megabases (class Sequence) with
~ 300 subsequences, ~ 2,000 Pep_homol and 38,000 protein objects. The
Pep_homol (and protein objects) was generated from blastx of the bacterial
genome against 8 other bacterial organisms.  I have been experiencing
"Segmentation Fault" errors when I do Blixem to look at the blastx
homologies. The error occurrences are somewhat irregular. Sometimes I can
look at Blixem of twenty or more subsequences (opening and closing the
window), but then sometimes the program will quit after a couple of Blixem
events.

    I have tried to leave the Blixem window open but that seemed to have
made the problem worse. I also have tried logging to my account from other
machines or logging in as other users, but the problem persisted. In
addition, I have tried AceDB versions 4.9s, 4.9t, 4.9u, 4.9y and 4.9z. The
problems were still there.

    The weird thing is that one other person in the lab (whose account
belongs to a different user group), had no problem at all. I have logged in
as another user in that same group (but not the account of the person
without any problem), but that did not help the situation.

    I understand that "Segmentation Fault" is a hard problem to diagnose.
Does anyone have any hints or insights as to why this is happening and /or
how I might be able to alleviate the problem? Thanks for your help!!

    Sincerely,

    Chia
_______________________________________________
Chia Hung
Postdoctoral Research Fellow
Department of Molecular Microbiology
Washington University School of Medicine
660 S. Euclid Ave., Box 8230
St. Louis, MO  63110
Tel: (314) 747-3627
Fax: (314) 362-1232

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Re: Fragmentation Fault
#90
Author: Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 13:35
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hi

I think the question is "what are the specs of the machine on which 
acedb runs" more than the specs of your linux box (since it is only used 
as an xterm)

since everything works for one user on the same machine, I believe the 
problem might come from some stack size or other limit, set in your 
distant shell

eg, if your distant machine (the one running acedb) is a linux and you 
use bash on it, try the command
ulimit -a
you can try setting some values to unlimited (most probably the stack 
size: ulimit -s unlimited)

if your distant shell is tcsh, the command is limit, check your tcsh 
manpage for details

if it's some other shell I don't know, but there are generally analogues 
to these commands

Well, i'm no acedb guru so it could be anything else, in that case 
someone else can perhaps help you

hope this helps
nicolas


Chia Hung wrote:
> Hi, AceDB gurus,
> 
>     I am currently using AceDB v. 4.9h on a Dell dual Xeon processor (I
> Don't know the RAM size) running RedHat Linux 8 with Gnome window
> manager/desktop manager. Both AceDB program and the databases are located on
> a remote machine. I am using the Linux box pretty much as a terminal.
> 
>     My database is a bacterial genome of ~ 5 megabases (class Sequence) with
> ~ 300 subsequences, ~ 2,000 Pep_homol and 38,000 protein objects. The
> Pep_homol (and protein objects) was generated from blastx of the bacterial
> genome against 8 other bacterial organisms.  I have been experiencing
> "Segmentation Fault" errors when I do Blixem to look at the blastx
> homologies. The error occurrences are somewhat irregular. Sometimes I can
> look at Blixem of twenty or more subsequences (opening and closing the
> window), but then sometimes the program will quit after a couple of Blixem
> events.
> 
>     I have tried to leave the Blixem window open but that seemed to have
> made the problem worse. I also have tried logging to my account from other
> machines or logging in as other users, but the problem persisted. In
> addition, I have tried AceDB versions 4.9s, 4.9t, 4.9u, 4.9y and 4.9z. The
> problems were still there.
> 
>     The weird thing is that one other person in the lab (whose account
> belongs to a different user group), had no problem at all. I have logged in
> as another user in that same group (but not the account of the person
> without any problem), but that did not help the situation.
> 
>     I understand that "Segmentation Fault" is a hard problem to diagnose.
> Does anyone have any hints or insights as to why this is happening and /or
> how I might be able to alleviate the problem? Thanks for your help!!
> 
>     Sincerely,
> 
>     Chia
> _______________________________________________
> Chia Hung
> Postdoctoral Research Fellow
> Department of Molecular Microbiology
> Washington University School of Medicine
> 660 S. Euclid Ave., Box 8230
> St. Louis, MO  63110
> Tel: (314) 747-3627
> Fax: (314) 362-1232
> 
> ---

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Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
Laboratoire LSR-IMAG, BP 53, 38041 Grenoble Cedex 9, France
tel : (33/0)4-76-63-55-79, fax : (33/0)4-76-63-55-50
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Re: Fragmentation Fault
#92
Author: Ed Griffiths
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 14:01
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Chia Hung,

>     The weird thing is that one other person in the lab (whose account
> belongs to a different user group), had no problem at all. I have logged in
> as another user in that same group (but not the account of the person
> without any problem), but that did not help the situation.
> 
>     I understand that "Segmentation Fault" is a hard problem to diagnose.
> Does anyone have any hints or insights as to why this is happening and /or
> how I might be able to alleviate the problem? Thanks for your help!!

what Nicolas said could well be the cause but there is one other thing you 
should check.....

All users have a ".acedbrc" file in their home directory, this contains acedb 
preferences which you can edit via the "Preferences" window from the xace main 
window.

there are some blixem options that you should check, in particular BLIXEM_SCOPE 
& BLIXEM_HOMOL_MAX. These control the number of matches passed from acedb to 
blixem and it may be that you have these set at a level that means blixem is 
being passed too many matches and then runs out of memory or there is some other 
problem because of the number of matches.

Find the other persons .acedbrc and compare it to yours.

cheers Ed
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| Ed Griffiths, Acedb development, Informatics Group,                    |
|        Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute, Wellcome Trust Genome Campus,  |
|               Hinxton, Cambridge CB10 1SA, UK                          |
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