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Article #148Re: question using SRS's web interface
From: Don Gilbert
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 15:04
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 15:04
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Andrew Dalke <adalke@mindspring.com> found these problems at the IUBio SRS service recently: > I choose IUBIO (19808101), at > > >http://iubio.bio.indiana.edu/srs6bin/cgi-bin/wgetz?-page+LibInfo+-lib+GENBANKRELEASE > > Then "TOP PAGE" so I could do a query. > > Select GENBANK and GENPEPT. (Both, to be on the safe side) > > Enter "X61499" in the "Quick Search" box, and press the "Quick Search" > button. > > Here are the hits: > GENBANK:AE015854 <-- because of note "similar to GB:X61498 ..." > GENBANK:HSCD85703 <-- don't know why there was a match > GENBANK:HSPA18H7 <-- don't know why there was a match > GENPEPT:AE015854_2 <-- because of note "similar to GB:X61498, > GB:X61499 ..." > GENPEPT:X61499_1 <-- contains ACCESSION X61499, so this make sense These errors were the result of my mistakes in dealing with some of the stress that the growth in GenBank size is putting on our tools. SRS is well able to deal with these large and growing sequence databanks, and Lion Bioscience devotes good effort to ensure this is so. However there are Unix-system dependent needs that my server wasn't able to meet (having > 1024 files open by one process). I tried a work-around that didn't work, but it wasn't obvious until Andrew pointed this out (thank you very much). The current release of GenBank is now available at IUBio thru SRS, http://iubio.bio.indiana.edu/srs/ and the above query returns these matches GENBANK:AE015854 <-- because of note "similar to GB:X61498 ..." GENBANK:HSBA18I14 <-- because of note "match ... Em:X61499 .." GENBANK:HSNFKBSU <-- this is accession X61499 GENPEPT:AE015854_2 <-- because of note "similar to ... GENPEPT:X61499_1 <-- contains ACCESSION X61499 My thanks to Martin Hilbers of Lion Bioscience for help with this. If you want to provide useful search and retrieval for many of the large biosequence databanks, I recommend SRS which handles these well, with ready-made, community updated parsers which are kept current as databank formats change and new databanks come into existence (see http://www.lionbio.co.uk/parser/). I use SRS not only for providing the public access at IUBio, but for datamining in the FlyBase and euGenes genome projects, and many small projects. We also use SRS as the core search/retrieval engine in the FlyBase project, as it continues to provide rapid results to simple and complex user queries of genome data, with a minimum of fuss to process new and complex data structures (including XML databases). I would love to see Lion Bioscience provide an 'SRS-lite' system that could be bundled with public bioinformatics data access systems such as FlyBase, that would have fewer licensing restrictions for academic use than the current release of SRS (which does have a no-cost academic license). Such a tool could encourage more use of SRS and enhance its full, commercial release as a widely desired tool. Somewhere in the future of bioinformatics data access, our community needs to develop better ways to find and retrieve data objects, as the growth and dispersion of bio-data is making it harder for those who want to use this sensibly to find the best, current data. SRS is one of those core bio-data access tools which could help form a basis for such. In my view, distributed directories of bio-data could be created, using such common, standard directory protocols as LDAP and Web Services, and which are built on efficient backend systems including SRS, RDBMS, perhaps Entrez and others. This could provide a common standard for searching these distributed directories to retrieve data by hundreds to millions of records as efficiently and simply, if not more so, as you now do by copying and installing databanks locally. The current web interfaces are useful for the individual click-and-browse human interface, but are limited when it comes to computational access to volumes of data. - Don Gilbert -- -- d.gilbert--bioinformatics--indiana-u--bloomington-in-47405 -- gilbertd@bio.indiana.edu ---
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