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Article #2215Re: MI/X and SeqLAb under Mac OS8 and my PowerMac
From: Tim Cutts
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 00:00
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 00:00
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In article <foisys.872813521@cyclone.ERE.UMontreal.CA>, Foisy Sylvain <foisys@ERE.UMontreal.CA> wrote: >Hi there, > >I want to use the MI/X server on my Mac under MacOS8 for using the SeqLab >module of GCG. Each time I tried, I telnetted to my machine, started SeqLab >after redirecting the display to my display's adress and switch to MI/X open >in the background. MI/X would then quit without explanation, my server telling >me that my X server connection was broken. I don't think that MI/X is totally >to blame since xclock and xterm are working. > >I know that I sould use something more powerful (like MacX 1.5 or eXodus) >but free software is hard to beat... I'm also new to the world of X. > >Any clue... I have had all manner of problems with MI/X. It only worked at all on two out of three Macs I tried it on, and on one of those it did work on, SeqLab caused the problem you describe. Eventually I abandoned it. It may be free, but if you can't use it, that doesn't help much. The Windows version of MI/X seems much better (but then there are some extremely inexpensive X servers for Windows which are streets ahead of MI/X; XWin32 for example, which is very cheap, especially compared to the more dominant products like eXceed. Plus of course, the PC has Linux, which gives you a 'real' UNIX X server for free. I don't know whether the port of Linux to the Mac ever got as far as supporting X. From my point of view as a sysadmin of the UNIX end of things, I also do not like it since the server does not support any security options except for the most rudimentary host-based authentication, which worries me. Anyone on my system (and probably on the Internet, depending on how the user configures the server) could watch everything they type, snarfing passwords and all sorts. Yuck. At least MI/X does have the option to pop up a query dialog box every time a client wants to connect to it, which solves the problem, but I should think most users would switch that off because it's "annoying". The bottom line is, if you really are serious about using X, either use a PC to run it and get one of the cheap or free X servers available for that platform (because in my experience the networking performance of PCs is a lot better anyway - my 486DX-33 running NT or Linux transfers data on the same segment of ethernet over 10x faster than my PowerMac 7100), or buy one of the commercial X servers for the Macintosh, and a three button mouse for your Mac while you're at it. My personal preference is for White Pine eXodus; I think it is easier to use than MacX. Lastly, you might want to consider the upcoming GCG 9.1, which is going to have a WWW interface. If your site is likely to upgrade, then you might just want to wait and use that, although GCG said to me that they still expect 'power users' (whoever they might be) to use SeqLab in preference to the web interface. Just my $0.02 Tim.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103fe7,96940c4648af4f92 X-Google-Attributes: gid103fe7,public X-Google-Thread: fa6b6,96940c4648af4f92 X-Google-Attributes: gidfa6b6,public From: tjrc1@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk (Tim Cutts) Subject: Re: MI/X and SeqLAb under Mac OS8 and my PowerMac Date: 1997/08/29 Message-ID: <5u5u7u$792$1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> X-Deja-AN: 268888528 References: <foisys.872813521@cyclone.ERE.UMontreal.CA> Organization: University of Cambridge Newsgroups: bionet.software,bionet.software.gcg