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Article #1017Re: Storm brewing in news.admin.misc...
From: Kris Van Hees
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 02:36
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 02:36
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In article <38RLU3$56P@PALADIN.AMERICAN.EDU>, JIM@american.edu writes:
> I understand the concern about broken threads, but the fact is that
> the information is simply unavailable to the gateway. I see three
> possible resolutions:
>
> (1) Apply the check at POST time instead of for in-stream posts. This
> would, in effect, leave things as they are now for the gateways.
This is in any case the real solution. Newsreaders (clients in general) have
to be RFC-compliant, as much as the servers ought to be compliant. Now, it
is already known that NETNEWS is not correct on all parts of the RFC 1036, so
one could argue that the client can be a bit more liberal also in that case,
but I doubt anyone will deny that this is a very false conclusion. At post
time, all needed information is available (when it is a follow-up), so there
isn't much reason not to follow the standard.
> (2) Apply the check only for hierarchies in the traditional ("Big 7")
> hierarchies. All mailing lists gated to these groups would have to
> be dropped, but hierarchies such as bit.** would be unaffected.
This is not possible, since the RFC clearly handles about ALL newsgroups, no
matter whether they are amongst the 'standard' USENET hierarchies or not.
> (3) Have the gateway remove the "Re:" on the subject line. These
> are not replies in the news sense of the word, but rather new posts.
Ughh, no please. That would be a last resort-action, and even then I guess a
rewrite of 'Re: foobarbaz' to 'Was: foobarbaz' would be the only acceptable
way of doing that, since there ought to remain some reference to the original
posting.
Kris.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109803,65aaed3d63f67e6 X-Google-Attributes: gid109803,public X-Google-Thread: 15c9c8,65aaed3d63f67e6 X-Google-Attributes: gid15c9c8,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-10-28 20:48:48 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!bga.com!news.sprintlink.net!EU.net!ub4b!idefix.CS.kuleuven.ac.be!blekul11!stud02 Nntp-Posting-Host: 134.58.8.1 Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 03:36:45 +0100 Newsgroups: bit.admin,bit.listserv.netnws-l Distribution: world References: <38rela$voq@unix1.cc.ysu.edu> <38RLU3$56P@PALADIN.AMERICAN.EDU> From: stud02@cc4.kuleuven.ac.be (Kris Van Hees) Message-ID: <1994Oct29.032848@cc4.kuleuven.ac.be> Reply-To: stud02@cc4.kuleuven.ac.be Organization: Are you kidding ? Subject: Re: Storm brewing in news.admin.misc... Lines: 32