🚀 go-pugleaf

>The move of administrative authority from AU to Newsguy *should* happen,
>because AU doesn't appear to want it.  The hierarchy right now is
>basically not maintained, which is bad for everyone in the hierarchy.
>
>Or maybe we should just create a new hierarchy for gated mailing lists, an
>idea that's bounced around a few places from time to time.

Do you know of any group of people interested in starting such a hierchy?  It
would, of course, have the same problem as alt groups: propagation.  I'm
pretty certain though that Newsguy would host.

Has anyone had any luck getting a response from AU within the last year?  It
would be in their interests to get rid of all responsibility for this last
remain vestige of Jim McIntosh's work.  Once they've transferred authority
they no longer have to deal with anything having to do with it.  I think they
understand that, or at least they used to.  Below is the last post out of AU
on the subject that I'm aware of.  It's well past time guys.  Come on.

> From: pmod@american.edu (Peter M. O'Donnell)
> Subject: Re: Admin authority for bit.listserv.* groups moving?
> Date: 24 Aug 1998 00:00:00 GMT
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> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> 
> nospam@nospam.com wrote:
> : Now that Newsguy is taking over the gateway duties from American Univerisity,
> : does anyone know if admin authority is needed for changing, or deleting,
> : bit.listserv groups created by American University?  If so, can that
> : authority be transferred?
> 
>         once we decide that everything is in good order, i will be happy to
> give the keys to whoever at newsguy. until then, we (i) remain the sole 
> keyholder for the signatory stuff.
> 
> : I'll keep posting this at regular intervals.  No one's answered past
> : inquiries, and no response has been forthcoming from American University for
> : several weeks now.
> 
>         just ask, we'll respond. we have been *very* busy. the mainframe
> isn't scheduled to go away until the end of april 1999, so we have some time
> to get everything in line.
>         oh, and if you are reading and care---
> 
> WE ARE GETTING A NEW MACHINE TO HOST LISTSERV ON!!!!!!
> YEEEE!!!!
> 
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