Gateway for Llajta under discussion

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3 total messages Started by John D. Reading Wed, 21 Dec 1994 21:30

#1062

Author: John D. Reading
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 21:30

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I have a large, well established mailing list named Llajta, which
is a discussion list regarding the country Bolivia and all things
Bolivian.  We recently (yesterday) got a newsgroup, soc.culture.bolivia,
passed.  During the process of getting the newsgroup voted on I
promised to provide a bi-directional gateway between the list and
the group, as I believed I would have news running on my machine
before the group was ready.  Well, the group is here, and I am not
even close to having news posting capability from my own machine
(I am posting this from a dial-in account).  By coincidence, today
I was made aware of the news gating service which appears to be
related to this newsgroup.  Since I am new to this particular area
I don't know a lot of the ground rules, but it sounds as if the
gateway services described in the document bit/policy are exactly
what I would like for my mailing list and the newsgroup.  So, my
questions:

1) Can a bidirectional gateway be established between the mailing list
Llajta (llajta@io.dsd.litton.com) and the newsgroup soc.culture.bolivia
*without* a group bit.listserv.llajta (I have no need for the latter)?

2) What else (besides posting this message and waiting a week, then
sending a message to news-admin@american.edu) would I need to do to
establish the gateway?

Thanks for any and all help, even if it is to tell me that I have
badly misunderstood something and need to get off this group ;-)

John Reading
readingj@cerf.net
reading@io.dsd.litton.com

Re: Gateway for Llajta under discussion

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Author: Jim McIntosh
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 18:05

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In article <3da6q2$4ni@news.cerf.net>, readingj@nic.cerf.net (John D.
Reading)
> 1) Can a bidirectional gateway be established between the mailing list
> Llajta (llajta@io.dsd.litton.com) and the newsgroup soc.culture.bolivia
> *without* a group bit.listserv.llajta (I have no need for the latter)?

Sure, we gateway dozens of non-bit.** groups.

> 2) What else (besides posting this message and waiting a week, then
> sending a message to news-admin@american.edu) would I need to do to
> establish the gateway?

Since the newsgroup is new and since you promised the gateway when
the group was proposed, there is really nothing else you need to do.
I can set up the gateway whenever you want. I see no reason to wait
a week -- that waiting period is designed to let people comment on
the appropriateness of a new bit.** newsgroup.

Jim McIntosh (jim@american.edu)
The American University
Washington, DC USA 20016-8019

Re: Gateway for Llajta under discussion

#1064

Author: Jim McIntosh
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 18:08

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In article <3da6q2$4ni@news.cerf.net>, readingj@nic.cerf.net (John D.
Reading) wrote:
> 1) Can a bidirectional gateway be established between the mailing list
> Llajta (llajta@io.dsd.litton.com) and the newsgroup soc.culture.bolivia
> *without* a group bit.listserv.llajta (I have no need for the latter)?

The gateway code in NetNews works well with most Mailing List Managers,
such as Listserv and ListProc. The two requirements for the mailing list
are:

(1) Every post must have a unique Message-ID. If one is present in the
    incoming post, the MLM must pass it through unchanged. If none is
    present, the MLM must generate one.

(2) All posts must appear to come from one consistent address (usually
    OWNER-<listname> but can be any address). Some older MLMs rerouted
    posts so that they appeared to come from the poster instead of the
    list. (This was not desirable since bounce messages are returned to
    the poster, who can't do anything about them, instead of the list 
    owner who can remove the subscription causing the bounces.) I am
    taking here about the Return-Path address, or MAIL FROM: in SMTP.

As long as your MLM meets these two requirements there should be no
problem gateway'ing your list.

Jim McIntosh (jim@american.edu)
The American University
Washington, DC USA 20016-8019

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