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I am replying to this discussion to share a little bit about these
conservative politics issues from my perspective as a scientist who is a
Christian.  I am trained as a conservation biologist (M.S., Illinois
State University, 1997) and grew up as a pastor's kid
(Lutheran-protestant-Christian).
I find it unfortunate that the very vocal right-wing conservative
politics becomes a prominent example of what a Christian is.  These
groups do not have the sole market on Christian theology.  they are just
the perspective most often in the media.



On Sat, 21 Mar 1998 08:10:41 -0500 James Sutton
<SUTTON.JAMES@EPAMAIL.EPA.GOV> writes:
>"lcochran@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU" responded to someone in the
>following way, all in regard to an apparently bogus paper from some
>apparently bogus organization:
>
>I also received this in the mail, and since the publication had no
>indication of any journal I pretty much assumed it was bogus and
>tossed
>it.
>Somehow the "Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine" reminded me of
>the
>creation science institutes.  I assume that if this really exists,
>it's
>some sort of similar institute with no credentials or standing in the
>scientific community.  Maybe I'm wrong, but the whole thing smelled
>fishy.
>
>Sutton.james@epamail.epa.gov (AKA "ictiobus@aol.com") respondeth:
>I quite agree.  It's also like the local "Christian" academies, set up
>to avoid
>education.
>
>Anyway, I did an AltaVista search for both the "Oregon Institute Of
>Science and Medicine" and "George C. Marshall Institute."  I got about
>94
>possibles for the OISM, none of which were very productive but I did
>get
>leads to a paper by two Robinsons on this issue and links to Steve
>Milloy's Junkscience page so there may be some connection with this
>"organization."  I didn't have time to pursue it through the Web-maze.
>Perhaps others could and report back.
>
>With regard to the Marshall Institute, I found much more valid
>information.
>This is a real organization and it is aimed at debunking greenhouse
>effects, global warming, and god knows what else.  They have a page
>that is worth a short visit at "http://www.marshall.org".  Listed as
>board
>members (I think) were such environment experts as Bruce Ames and
>one of the authors of the paper (Baliukas or something like that, I
>didn't
>write it down).  Most of these people are apparently not ecologists or
>environmental scientists.  If others want to check that out further
>(or is it
>"farther?"), great!
>
>Lastly, has anyone seen an NRC report referred to by some pages I read
>(Junkscience?) which is purported to say that enhanced CO2 effects,
>including GW) will have minimal effects on the environment and will
>not
>be an ecological disaster?  I have searched the NRC site but there's
>too
>much to go through.
>
>If anyone responds today, please use my AOL address... I'm not going
>back over there this weekend... it's too depressing... just like those
>miserable psalms!
>
>Jim Sutton
>QA MANAGER - US EPA
>Neurotoxicology Division
>RTP NC
>
> "You ask about my opinion on vivisection.  I quite agree that it is
>justifiable for real investigations on physiology; but not for mere
>damnable and detestable curiosity."
>                C. Darwin, in an 1871letter
>

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