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Re: HB analysis of Basque elections (English) - Galdera bat daukat

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From: Juan Etxenike Almeida
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 00:00
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> "UA gets 15 000 votes and 12% of the whole. "
>
> "IU, with 70 000 votes (1.2%)"
I saw some of the percentages were without a point to separate full and
decimal numbers so maybe they mean 1.2% for UA. But I don't know.
>
> The other part of th report states that
>
> "Thus, the signatory parties to the Lizarra Agreement have got 746 000
> votes -those who excluded themselves from this settlement only 483 000- and
> they have got 43 seats as opposed to 32 seats of those who
> did not sign the agreement."
>
> This works out at 60.6% of the votes and 57.3% of the seats. This discrepancy
> seems a little large to me. Can anyone give me a description of the electoral
> system that explains the discrepancy?
Large? I think it is small seeing what we see. But the way it works in BC
is not the worse. In the UK, as there is majoritarian vote, that is in
each constituency the seats are given to the most voted candidate. Thus
there is little left for small minoritarian partys unless their vote is
very localized (unionist, Sinn Feinn, Playd Cymru). In this country it is
possible to win more seats on parliament while not getting more votes than
your opponent.
In the Basque Country there is an assymetry, each province gets 25 seats
so Bizkaia(the most populated) is underrepresented and Araba (over
represented). Thus IU (gets most votes in Bizkaia) gets 2 seats with 70000
votes while UA gets 2 seats as well with only 10000 votes.


 > Those questions aside it seems the newsletter is saying 100,000+ people left
> the PSOE & IU parties to support PNV and EH (aka HB). That seems to be pretty
> significant and indicates the majority of people of people are (may be) in
> favour of an independent state. What are your readings of these figures?
PSOE lost voters towards PP. Non nationalists who got fed up last general
spanish elections and now vote PP as they think PP carries their actions
lawfully.
IU was getting unhappy votes from HB because of the violence. Once the
violence has stopped, the votes flew back to EH. These were people who are
not ment to be extremely nationalist through they want the prisoners back
to the Basque Country, and self determination. They identify themselves
more with issues on social justice, internationalism and direct action.
Some of this people wouldn't agree with violence the way it was practised
and found in IU a good (or less bad) option. Others went to abstention.
Anyway, IU hasn't lost that much.
Of course, it's an opinion. It would be interesting to listen to others.
bye


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Juan Etxenike Almeida
University of Warwick
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