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From: Juan Etxenike Almeida
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 00:00
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 00:00
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> It might be true that IU lost heavily because it was free-riding in HB, > but who cares?. At least at a base militant level, people in IU have many > thinks in common with HB supporters. Just look at the social question and > you will find both groups working together for better work conditions, > against gender discrimination, struggling for the environment, > international solidarity and so on... Yes true, IU shouldn't see a disaster in losing so many votes. It is not important if the Programa, programa, programa can be taken into place by another party. At the end of the day, IU should see it as a positive result of signing the Lizarra agreement. I don't agree with those who speak about the failure of IU. IU has standed away from the traditional confrontation which was stronger this time, between nationalists and no nationalists. IU is been regarded as the pro ETA spanish party, which is not true but this is the identification made by Mayor Oreja. But as I explained to Jon Patrick. IU loses more in terms of seats than in votes since, they get seven times more votes than UA and they get as many seats. The lesson from this election is that Lizarra has won, and it's been ironically validated by the prospanish parties who have been telling that this was about Lizarra yes or Lizarra not. They took risks and now it's time to face the consequences. The basque parliament should fulfill the agreement through political means, that was the vote of the electorate. Nevertheless, the big pro spanish minority owes respect and doing moves without taking it in account would break the basque society dangerously. We could see a rise of unionism if that minority felt disregarded. No solution can happen without them. I don't dismiss the claim about balcanisation. Spain look that it could split under pressure of nationalisms in Euskadi and Catalonia where they are majoritarians. Who thought that things would go as they went in the Balcans before they happen? I don't say that BC shouldn't become independent but a look at what has happened elsewhere should be made so further moves are done responsibly. Once a secession takes place there will be a deep political transformation, some societies suffer fractures because of these and wars happen. I guess that I need a more of extra information about the processes in Yugoslavia to compare situations. I dont' try to compare but just call for responsability and respect for those not belonging to the etnic group, not speaking the language, behaving differently and claiming the spanish nationality, they are not all of them a bunch of imperialists as they are sometimes accused..... Bye -- Juan Etxenike Almeida University of Warwick
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