🚀 go-pugleaf

I don't know if I wrote that but in any case I will answer you.

I don't trust you or your party at all but you know damn well that we
 in the national liberation movement will stick together when is
needed and that we will pact with your party and the devil if we have
 to for new strategies and ways to reach our goals.  That's why ETA
gave the truce knowing that our language and our culture is in danger
 and that we need a united front for crucial legislation. 

Your speech about "lots of foreign investment" being the answer to
 all our problems is truly disgusting but it doesn't surprise me
that people with your brains get re-elected for that kukumaku parliament
 of yours. 

We know very well who you are, and who your party is, and what you
 really want, which is in the Spanish constitution, so don't bullshit us
with your self-determination stuff and patronizing Navarre and Iparralde 
 with your  "serious nationalism."   If you had any decency left, you and your
parliament the first thing you would have to do is apologize to Navarre,  
 for having quit and sided with Spain when Navarre needed the Bascongadas 
to throw the occupying forces and gain back our basque state.  But that is all you
and  your party have done, to side with Spain against us, supporting the
dispersion of our beloved people, and using your private police against our people.
   Don't think for a minute that we believe you can change overnight but
we know very well your political games.

And your party should  apologize to all of us for having abandoned Euskadi
in the  Spanish civil war and going into exile.  Your government should have
 resisted till the end, and most  of all,  destroyed the infrastructure that made
possible the dictator to rebuild  spain, and send the millions of people who were
 taught in schools in our country  to hate us.  But must of all Mr Agirre
and his court should  have stayed and  fight for our homeland.  That is not your
 "serious nationalism" of course, but being dam  serious about defending your 
homeland and even die for it like Allende and his government did in Chile.

  I'm not going to engage myself in worthless discussions with you but I
will only tell you that there are enough people, young people like me,
 willing to continue the struggle to achieve our goals.  With or without
HB.  With or without ETA and Iparretarrak.

And pls stop patronizing Iparralde. You have a lot to learn from
Abertzaleen Batasuna, who was able to unite all the abertzales for a truly
 Basque project, and when they invited you and your kukumatu party, you
turn it down and when solo to make a ridicule, because you have nobody
 in Iparralde or Navarre to support you. So, if there is someone who has
to learn about basque solidarity is you and your party, not iparralde.

good night,

Mila Parot Zubimendi




 







   



On Fri, 20 Nov 1998, Xabier wrote:

> Hi there to all:
> In March 1986 somebody wrote to this list asking:
> 
> >Hola contertulios ¡
> >
> >Es la primera vez que intervengo en una lista y por supuesto debia ser esta.
> >
> >Después de ver unos dias el tipo de discusión actual se me ha ocurrido la
> >siguiente pregunta por si pudiera ser de interés para la lista y fomentara
> >el debate.
> >
> >Supongamos por un momento la situación politico-social actual en Euskadi y
> >que por arte de magia ETA desapareciera..
> >
> >¿Cuales podrían ser las consecuencias? ....
> 
> I wrote answering this (17 March 1986):
> 
> Que HB desapareceria, y daria lugar a un nuevo partido nacionalista de
> izquierda, en el que se integraria gente de la extinta EUE, y posiblemente
> gente de EA, el panorama politico se bipolarizaria entre el PNV y esa nueva
> fuerza, y entre ambas se produciria una cierta (no total) unidad de accion,
> ambas fuerzas tendrian una gran mayoria en el Parlamento vasco, y tarde o
> temprano acabarian coaligadas en el gobierno, esa unidad de accion,
> llevaria a que hubiera una mayor presion en favor de la autodeterminacion.
> La economia vasca sufriria un crecimiento expectacular, se atraerian
> bastantes inversiones extranjeras y eso serviria de acicate para aumentar
> las inversiones endogenas. En Navarra se produciria una cierta coalicion
> electoral entre ambas fuerzas, que aunarian todo el voto vasco, y su
> influencia seria muy grande, En Iparralde tambien habria movimientos muy
> interesantes, en favor de que por fin exista un nacionalismo serio.
> Los avances nacionales serian grandisimos, y el voto nacionalista aumentaria.
> >
> 
> A person write an answer to my note saying only this: URDE GOSEAK EZKURRAK
> AMETS,,,,well that was all,,,and now I would like to know what this person
> thinks about my old note and about her answer,,,,`
> 
> Best wishes..Xabier
> 
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>