🚀 go-pugleaf

Dear Xabier,

Since you raise yourself as a bit of visionary may be you can tell us what
would happen "as if by magic" ETA would start its campaign again?


This is to say that it is important to understand under which conditions
we could achieve peace and stability. ETA didn't stop by magic, but
because the Lizarra declaration created the conditions for it.

Your analysis is wrong because that question implied that ETA is the cause
and not the consequence. It is also dangerous because it assumes that once
there is a cease-fire everything would follow suit "as if by magic".

Your made a forecast and now claim its realization. It is simply not true.
It is about time that we abandon the habit of fabricating reality and
stick to the facts.

Instead of doing political fiction, it is about time that we take the
peace process as a whole. Putting all the weight of the problem in ETA,s
back won't solve anything. It is about time that we read something about
conflict resolution. Of know-it-alls, we had enough. Please, do not
answer the first question. I didn't mean it and you might have hidden
powers after all...

We need new paradigms for new times.



On Fri, 20 Nov 1998, Xabier wrote:

> Hi there to all:
> In March 1986 somebody wrote to this list asking:
> 
> >Hola contertulios ¡
> >
> >Es la primera vez que intervengo en una lista y por supuesto debia ser esta.
> >
> >Después de ver unos dias el tipo de discusión actual se me ha ocurrido la
> >siguiente pregunta por si pudiera ser de interés para la lista y fomentara
> >el debate.
> >
> >Supongamos por un momento la situación politico-social actual en Euskadi y
> >que por arte de magia ETA desapareciera..
> >
> >¿Cuales podrían ser las consecuencias? ....
> 
> I wrote answering this (17 March 1986):
> 
> Que HB desapareceria, y daria lugar a un nuevo partido nacionalista de
> izquierda, en el que se integraria gente de la extinta EUE, y posiblemente
> gente de EA, el panorama politico se bipolarizaria entre el PNV y esa nueva
> fuerza, y entre ambas se produciria una cierta (no total) unidad de accion,
> ambas fuerzas tendrian una gran mayoria en el Parlamento vasco, y tarde o
> temprano acabarian coaligadas en el gobierno, esa unidad de accion,
> llevaria a que hubiera una mayor presion en favor de la autodeterminacion.
> La economia vasca sufriria un crecimiento expectacular, se atraerian
> bastantes inversiones extranjeras y eso serviria de acicate para aumentar
> las inversiones endogenas. En Navarra se produciria una cierta coalicion
> electoral entre ambas fuerzas, que aunarian todo el voto vasco, y su
> influencia seria muy grande, En Iparralde tambien habria movimientos muy
> interesantes, en favor de que por fin exista un nacionalismo serio.
> Los avances nacionales serian grandisimos, y el voto nacionalista aumentaria.
> >
> 
> A person write an answer to my note saying only this: URDE GOSEAK EZKURRAK
> AMETS,,,,well that was all,,,and now I would like to know what this person
> thinks about my old note and about her answer,,,,`
> 
> Best wishes..Xabier
> 
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