🚀 go-pugleaf

I remember sending numbers to basque-l after a foreign lady
 asked for them but just can't find a copy of the email in
my language folder. Since the basque-l archives are not available
 because of attempts to "mailbomb" the list, I can't search
for it in basque-l either. sorry.  I only found a copy of
 some stuff on occitan I sent to basque-l a year ago and
thought perhpas you should contact Eusko Ikaskuntza

ciao,

Mila Parot Z.

>>> Item number 10975, dated 97/05/07 12:35:44 -- AL
Date:         Wed, 7 May 1997 12:35:44 -0400
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From:         "Mila A. Parot Zubimendi" <ARANTZAZU@DE
Subject:      occitan in nafarroa

hi delinquents.. is me again...

i was reading about a new publication
 from eusko ikaskuntza and this one
has to do with the many documents
 in the occitan language that have
been found in nafarroa...

according to this article.. nafarroa is
 one of the places where more written
documents in occitan have been found..
 700 documents compared to 49 found
in Aragon.. this tells about the economic
 importance of this occitan community
predominantly gascons and dedicated to
 banking and commercial activities

the article says that there are documents
 written in gascon-bearnes found in
behe-nafarroa while in nafarroa-garaia the
 language employed was more archaic, the
result of the isolation of these from the
 great occitan cities like bordeaux, toulouse,
 montpellier.. tarbe or saint'girons..

this called my attention: the convent of saint
 engrace in irunea became an extension of
occitan politics in nafarroa.. the convent was
 founded in xiii by the bourgeois saint cernin
and the powerful families of irunea put their daughters
 in these convents where they live in horror...
 these women were kept half a year
 fastening with bread and water.. they had to
live in total silence and they were bleed four
 times a year(!!!)

but wait.. according to this research and pub.of
 eusko ikaskuntza.. life outside the convent was
even worse except for the bourgeoisie..

 the article says that the bourgeoisie only used
the occitan language but the popular stratta
 used eskuara.. and to prove this are the place
names of the monastery's properties are all
 written in eskuara..

in other words.. the abundance of written texts
 in occitan is because it was the language of
the bourgeoisie while eskuara was the language of
 the popular classes that was not written..
(the article dixit)..

but it would be an important contribution to
 the research of this period
 if eusko ikaskuntza would investigate how was
life for women of the popular classes.. because
 if they claim that life inside the convent was
bad for women but worse outside except for the
 bourgeoisie, there most be some evidence to
support this kind of statement and it would be
 very very important to do research on this..

see you soon...

mila a.
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On Wed, 9 Dec 1998, Luistxo Fernandez wrote:

> Perhaps the linguists out there can help me.
>
> I would like to know how msny Occitan-speakers (ie. Gascon speakers) are
> there in the Basque Country.
>
> As you may know, the triangle Baiona-Angelu-Biarritz in Lapurdi is also
> part of the Occitan domain, and there are other towns in the borders of
> Iparralde where Gascon or Bearnais is spoken... But by how many people?
>
> thanks in advance
> Luistxo
>
> bide batez, zorionak Mikel S.ri liburuagatik.
>