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Started by Ian Chai
Sat, 14 Sep 1996 00:00
SG, MY, SEA: No borders for ASEAN?
Author: Ian Chai
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 00:00
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 00:00
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The article "SG,SEA: NUS remains the champ of Asean debate" said: At the final held at Dewan Tunku Chancellor, Universiti Malaya, UP was not easily edged out as they proved to be feisty opponents as the proposers for the topic There Should Be No Borders Within Asean. Aside from the skill of the Filipino and Singaporean debaters, what do people think of this "no borders" idea? I think it is a great idea, if implemented slowly enough not to cause sudden major disruption. ASEAN could enjoy the kind of mobility that the United States has: people from one state can easily move to another if their skills are needed there, and everyone is better off in the long run. For example, Malaysia is currently facing a worker shortage. But because Indonesians and Filipinos have to go through so much hassle and ringamarole, they can't easily fulfill our labor needs. And we have the nationalistic thinking that "they" will benifit from "our" bounty. If we think of ourselves as not so separate, we both end up benifitting. The main argument I've heard for "no borders" is that it is destablizing. "Why," the argument goes, "then all the Indonesians will move to Malaysia and destablize everything." That's why I said it needs to be implemented slowly. Right now the imbalance exists that is artificially held by immigration control. In a stable state open border situation, the natural balance due to the available resources and people will, like the states in the United States, assert itself and you have slow gradual migrations rather than sudden shocks to the system.
Re: SG, MY, SEA: No borders for ASEAN?
Author: Faruq abd ul-Rafi
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 00:00
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 00:00
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In <199609150302.AA16246@chip.cs.uiuc.edu> Ian Chai <chai@UIUC.EDU> writes: >What do people >think of this "no borders" idea? >I think it is a great idea, if implemented slowly enough not to cause sudden >major disruption. ASEAN could enjoy the kind of mobility that the United >States has: people from one state can easily move to another if their skills >are needed there, and everyone is better off in the long run. Perhaps it could start with open borders between Malaysia and Singapore and expand from there. This seems easiest to implement and least likely to create major disruptions. But before you can get to a situation in which people can travel from one end of ASEAN to the other the way they can travel from one end of the US or the European Union to the other, I think the various ASEAN governments need to become much more like one another. You can't have a relatively democratic Philippines and a Burmese dictatorship sharing open borders. (BTW, I know that Burma is not yet part of ASEAN, but it will be long before ASEAN gets open borders.) _____ Faruq abd ul-Rafi (R. A. Nelson) University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, Department of Philosophy e-mail: faruq@uiuc.edu
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