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Started by Louisa & Titus
Mon, 03 May 1999 00:00
toe off and foot-ground contact
Author: Louisa & Titus
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 00:00
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 00:00
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Dear all:
I have received several responses. I would like to apologize for and
clarify some confusion in my original posting. The subjects in my study
walked on a smooth surface. No force plate was involved due to the
limited resource in our lab for gait analysis. My interest is on the
swing phase only and thus my computer program does not take the ground
reaction force into account. This is one of the reasons why I want to
have a precise toe-off and foot ground contact. I did use the ankle
angle to identify (peak plantarflexion for toe-off and peak dorsiflexion
for heel strike). However, the toe off that I identify from observation
tended to occur 2 to 3 frames consistently earlier than when I use the
peak plantarflexion to identify. After I reviewed the tape,
surprisingly, subjects continued to plantarflex after toe off for a
period of 2 to 3 frames. (that's why I think my observation may not be
too inaccurate!!)
Further suggestion will be greatly appreciated.
The following is my original posting
Louisa
I am doing a 2-D gait study. The purpose is to look at the kinetic
pattern of the lower limb during the swing phase in children by running
inverse dynamic. During filming, subjects walked barefooted and there
was no light sensor attached to the sole of foot for indicating toe-off
& foot ground contact.I did observe & record down the frame # for
toe-off and ground contact during digitizing. Now I would like to know
if I could determine when toe-off and foot ground contact occur from
the data itself rather from my observation (which I think may not be
inaccurate though). Unfortunately, I did not have a marker on the toe. I
had the markers on the MT joint of the 5th toe, ankle and heel for the
foot movement.So when the Y coordinate of MT joint of the 5th toe is
right above zero, the forefoot is still on the ground.
Does anybody have a good idea as to how I determine these two events
from the data of MT joint of the 5th toe, ankle and heel.
Any idea will be greatly appreciated
Louisa Law MEd
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Re: toe off and foot-ground contact
Author: Dr. Chris Kirtley (Kwok Kei Chi)
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 00:00
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 00:00
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Dear Louisa, After Jim Richards correctly pointed out that toe velocity is a better signal than acceleration to indicate toe-off, I thought I'd better go back and look at this again. By chance, there was a typhoon this weekend, so I had plenty of time to make a summary of all the different possibilities at: http://guardian.curtin.edu.au/cga/faq/toe-off.html or http://www.polyu.edu.hk/cga/faq/toe-off.html or http://www.univie.ac.at/cga/faq/toe-off.html Thanks to Jim for correcting me! Best wishes, Chris -- Dr. Chris Kirtley MD PhD Dept. of Rehabilitation Sciences The Hong Kong Polytechnic University Hong Kong Special Administrative Region of The People's Republic of China Tel: +852 2766 6755 (lab 4830) Fax: 2764 1435 Home: http://www.polyu.edu.hk/~rs/kirt/index.htm PolyU Gait Lab: http://www.rs.polyu.edu.hk/gaitlab Clinical Gait Analysis: http://www.polyu.edu.hk/cga Send subscribe/unsubscribe to listproc@info.curtin.edu.au --------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send SIGNOFF BIOMCH-L to LISTSERV@nic.surfnet.nl For information and archives: http://isb.ri.ccf.org/biomch-l ---------------------------------------------------------------
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