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                            THE BLIND NEWS DIGEST

                                 Issue # 1113

                         Wednesday, January 25, 1995

Today's Topics:


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                                 telix and c
                                 telix and c
                           responses to questions
                          Re: Magazines on Computer
                                VOICE TYPERS?
                                  For Sale
                              Blind in Michigan
             Catalogs of products for visually impaired wanted.
                               Re: telix and c
                           lost in a C of numbers
                         Braille display for windows
                RE: carpenter level-blind -- resource needed
                                FROM GERMANY
                  Info on R.P. operation & Ozone treatment?
                              Re: Talking Clock
                              Re: VOICE TYPERS?
                     Re: LISTSERV for blind & computers?


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Subject: telix and c
From: jims@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Jim Stevenson)


Subject: telix and c

1 What is the last version of telix that is speech friendly?
How do I get it?

2 What is the most speech friendly c compiler debuger?

Dr. Jim Stevenson
(415) 604-5720 w
voicemail any time



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Subject: responses to questions
From: HUDSON@msu.edu (Michael.Hudson)

Hello,

This is a response to 3 recently posed questions.

First, to the computer professional at a high school in Vermont.  I highly
recommend either Master Touch and Keynote Gold from Humanware Inc (800)
722-3393--This is the system I use.  I have used many systems and find this
one outstanding.  The one drawback is the cost.---approx $2,000.   Humanware
representatives will come right out to the school and set up a demo for you.
Also, I would consider Vocal-Eyes from GW Micro--another fine system.
On the Windows speech output side, the decision is not as simple.  I am
presently reviewing OutSpoken for Windows from Berkeley systems.  I think this
is a good start.  Also, Artic Technologies WinVision is quite effective.  I am
not crazy about Window bridge as it uses many confusing key combinations for
reading the screen.

Second, someone asked about a large print package for use on a Toshiba 1910.
I am not sure why ZoomText is not working for you!  I set up just such a
system not long ago.  The one catch might be a need to hold down a function
key to make use of the imbedded number pad for reviewing the screen.  You may
also want to consider MAGiC or Artic Technologies' Magnum (I have not used it
myself).

Finally, to the individual trying to make Vocal-Eyes work with a terminal.  I
suggest checking to see that the program is writing information to the screen
using BIOs rather than through direct screen writes.  In Procomm plus for
instance, you must set "snow removal" to on.  In Telix you should set the
program to use Bios and port checks through the setup menu.

Hope I have helped someone!

Michael Hudson
Michigan State University



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Subject: Re: Magazines on Computer
From: SPB@tntv2.ntrs.com (Steve Bonine)


In article <35081@handicap.news>, avatar@utw.com (Jerry Costley) writes:
> Index Number: 35081
>
>      I don't know about magazines on CD Rom, but all of the commercial on-line
> services carry magazines.  Among others, America Online carries Newsweek and
> Compuserve carries US News and World Report.  Prices vary for these; US News
> is part of Compuserve's basic package of $10 a month, which is worthwhile,
> even if you read slowly.  Others cost by the hour.  It mighth be worth
> checking it out.

If you have access to the World Wide Web, you can browse the current issue of
_Time_ magazine at no charge at http://www.timeinc.com/

(I say "at no charge" meaning that there's no charge to access the WWW page;
if you're purchasing time to access WWW, you'll have to pay for that.)



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Subject: VOICE TYPERS?
From: aimie.palmer@ablelink.org (Aimie Palmer)
Organization: Ability OnLine - Toronto Canada

 reposted from 105, disabled2 (NANet)

 Hi everyone!  I've noticed that there are a fair number of people on
 this echo who are visually impared.  Well, I recently met some people
 with a daughter who lost her vision due to brain surgery.  Her
 parents are trying to hook up a system that will read everything on
 the screen to her, but don't know how.  I don't know when I will have
 contact with them next, I just met them thursday night - I'm pretty
 sure my parents will see them in a month - and I would like some
 information for them on the different software programs for this sort
 of thing. Right now they have a Macintosh, but I think they may well
 look into a IBM compatible because they have not found anything in
 the Mac field. Any information would be appreciated.

 Aimie
 aimie.palmer@ablelink.org



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Subject: For Sale
From: speedy@halcyon.com (julie clark)

        I have an Epson Real Voice for sale for $2600.00 or best offer (new cost
$3295.00). The
voice is female. You type in what you want to say and the machine speaks it.
The machine is six
years old and in excellent condition. You can program many phases or just a
sentence. The
Epson Real Voice is for people who need a communicative device. It can also
be used as a
computer input device.  Please e-mail me at speedy@halcyon.com, if you have
interest and I
can give you more information about the capabilities of the Epson Real
Voice. If you know where
I can advertise my Epson Real Voice please let me know.




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Subject: Blind in Michigan
From: HUDSON@msu.edu (Michael.Hudson)

To the family with the 3 year old blind child in Cheboygan
Michigan.  My name is Michael Hudson and I coordinate academic
support services to blind and Visually impaired students at
Michigan State University.  I myself am blind and therefore
recognize the importance of a proper education for your child
beginning as early as possible.  My three major recommendations
for you would be:

1.  Network with other parents of children with vision
impairments.
2.  Begin preparing your child for literacy with an awareness of
the importance of Braille.
3.  Make sure that computer technology becomes part of your
child's education as he/she grows older.

I would be glad to speak with you regarding networking in the
state and with regard to making sure your child gets the
education he/she is entitled to.  Feel free to contact me at
(517) 353-9642.  I would also like to connect you with the
Michigan Parents of the Visually impaired (see the info below).
This group meets regularly and plans seminars and weekend
retreats for parents and children.  Finally, there is a teacher
consultant based in Indian River (Bob Burnett) who is quite
interested in the education of blind children.  Bob also runs a
summer camp for blind youth.  I hope this information helps you.

Mich Parents of the Visually Impaired
C/O Upshaw Institute for the Blind
16625 Grand River Ave
Detroit, MI  48227
(313) 272-3900


Sincerely,
Michael Hudson



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Subject: Catalogs of products for visually impaired wanted.
From: aksyuk@electron.rutgers.edu (Vladimir Aksyuk)
Organization: Rutgers University

Hi everybody!

I want to make a present to my visually impaired friend to make her life
back in Russia a little bit easier. Are there any catalogs of products for
visually impaired people?

You may email me at aksyuk@physics.rutgers.edu or post here, whatever
you prefer.

Thanks in advance.

Vladimir.



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Subject: Re: telix and c
From: mikef@pacifier.com (Mike Freeman)
Organization: Pacifier Computers


Hi!

I use Telix Version 3.22; I have the screen output set as
"Direct writes with port checks" and Telix doesn't talk excessively.
Also scan for lightbars when making menu choices and it works okay.

I'm sure you can get it from many sources but one is NFB-NET, the
BBS of the National Federation of the Blind, (410)752-5011.
Grab the files TLX322-1.ZIP, TLX322-2.ZIP, TLX322-3.ZIP and
TLX322-4.ZIP.

Dunno about a good C compiler; I'd be interested in that myself.
--
Mike Freeman            |       Internet: mikef@pacifier.com
GEnie: M.FREEMAN11      |       Amateur Radio Callsign: K7UIJ
... Virtue is its own punishment.



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Subject: lost in a C of numbers
From: LEEYA@delphi.com
Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation

Quoting SPB from a message in misc.handicap
   [ Message-ID: <35125@handicap.news>
   [ In article <35075@handicap.news>, kelly@ripco.com (Kelly Pierce)
   [writes: > Index Number: 35075
   [ >
   [ > Hilda Marshall (hilda@elf.com) wrote:
   [ > : Index Number: 35019
   [ >

   [ The original question was straightforward and did not deserve a
   [flame.  I expected someone to answer it, since it's a common question
   [with an easy answer, and I don't know the answer nearly as well as
   [many on this conference.  Kelly, your followup was slightly worse than
   [useless.
   [ The answer is that the number refers to the vertebrae in the spinal
   [column at which the spinal cord is damaged.  Since the nerves
   [controlling various parts of the body branch out at different points,
   [there is correlation between the point of damage and the amount of
   [disfunction.  I wish I could tell you more. Perhaps someone will.

Hi Steve:)

Your reply was posted 1 second after mine vbg! R u a mind reader vbg??
B4 I wrote my reply, I sent Hilda a private reply explaining cervical spinal
injuries a little more in depth. I think u did just fine in explaining as
much as u were able 2:). & I thank you 4 giving Hilda an honest reply :)

   {{ Hugs:) }}

*Leeya*

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Subject: Braille display for windows
From: anwrtbeer@aol.com (ANWRtbeer)
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)

Hi again!
 A while ago, I heard about a braille display that works in a windows
format.  Is there one available?  If there is, what is the price and what
are the specs?  Who is the company that sells these?
Thanks!!
Mandy Williams



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Subject: RE: carpenter level-blind -- resource needed
From: jongund@uiuc.edu (Jon Gunderson)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Try calling Smith Kettlewell Institute in California.  Try contacting John
Brabyn at SKI (415) 561-1658.  They have developed talking levels and other
instruments.

Jon



Jon R. Gunderson
Visiting Assistant Professor
Division of Rehabilitation Education Services
1207 S. Oak Street, Champaign, IL  61821
EMAIL: jongund@uiuc.edu  VOICE: (217) 244-5870  FAX: (217) 333-0248



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Subject: FROM GERMANY
From: arlette.lefebvre@ablelink.org (Arlette Lefebvre)
Organization: Ability OnLine - Toronto Canada




> Hallo Everybody
>
> I'm Ursula Rehmann. I'm a teacher at the school for the blind in
> Friedberg Germany. I'm blind, too. If you can read me in the States
> or in other parts of the world Ii'm looking forward to hear from
> you. I teach English and music.
>
> Bye!
>

 My Dear Ursula,

 I'm so very glad that one of our online mentors forwarded your
message to me this week..because, although my closest German
ancestry dates back to a Van De Weghe grandfather and the
botanical gardens of Berlin creation...as my faded brownish
metal photos attest to...and although I am not blind and do not
work primarily with blind kids... we do have many visually
impaired and blind students and mentors on Ability OnLine, the
free electronic mail friendly pothole on the superhiwghway
which we created especially to put youngsters with disabilities
in touch with the world of tomorrow,,,and give them an equal
chance to compete!

I am just a shrink (child psychiatrist) practicing in Toronto
for the past 20 years in a children's hospital (or 2),, but I
really really believe that this wonderful medium IS the great
equalizer and that we health professionals should do
ebverything in our power to make sure every child, even those
in hospital, have equal access to the Internet and mentors to
teach them how to use it!

You can find out a bit more about Ability OnLine by writing an
Internet message to:

info@ablelink.org

My own internet address is :

arlette.lefebvre@ablelink. org

My best friend, Erika Arndt, happens to be German and yes, she
is beginning to come around to dipping a toe here and there in
the waters of telecommunications...

Best bet to communicate with her is to send a message to her
university student son:

Tom.Arndt@ablelink.org

Last but not least, our fax number at the office is (416)
650-5073. We'd be happy to send you a package,,sorry it's not
in braille..but One of our fabulous mentors and online
hostesses, mary Kyle, here is blindand we are very much
interested in finding out what Germany is doing to teach
students with disabilities how to surf the Internet. Please
keep in touch!!

A bientot, I hope?

                           dr. froggie

                           Internet: arlette.lefebvre@ablelink.org


 * 1st 2.00b #219 * Where there's an open mind, there's a new frontier.



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Subject: Info on R.P. operation & Ozone treatment?
From: sethr@netcom.com (Seth Russell)
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)

I am looking for information from people who have been to Cuba for the
Retinitis Pigmentosa operation and the Ozone treatment.  I am thinking
about going to Cuba to get the operation and Ozone therapy.   My problem
is central vision loss - i can still see (kinda) with peripheral vision.  If
you have been to Cuba please call me and let me know if this experience has
helped you or not.

TIA, I will post a summary of my findings to this group.

    Denise Russell
    206-235-6119
    Or email sethr@netcom.com





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Subject: Re: Talking Clock
From: sethr@netcom.com (Seth Russell)
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)

KnowSeeker@aol.com wrote:
: Index Number: 34972

: >My dad's talking clock has worn out, and we need to replace it
: quickly.
: Talking clocks are available in many flavors from the various catalog sources
: including Maxi-Aids at 1-800-522-6294 and LS&S Group at 1-800-468-4789.  What
: is the phone number for the VisAids Catalog mentioned in BND #1105?  Always
: looking for new sources of equipment!
: David E. Brown  KnowSeeker@AOL.com

We have a Whistle activated talking clock and a clap activated talking
clock available from the Speak to Me catalog of talking products. Call
800-248-9965 or visit our WWW site http://clickshop.com/speak/ and order
on-line.  Sound demos are also available at that site.  If you have full
internet access you should be able to read our catalog with lynx.  If you
have any problems, please call the 800 number.

    Denise



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Subject: Re: VOICE TYPERS?
From: ebohlman@netcom.com (Eric Bohlman)
Organization: OMS Development

Aimie Palmer (aimie.palmer@ablelink.org) wrote:

:  Hi everyone!  I've noticed that there are a fair number of people on
:  this echo who are visually impared.  Well, I recently met some people
:  with a daughter who lost her vision due to brain surgery.  Her
:  parents are trying to hook up a system that will read everything on
:  the screen to her, but don't know how.  I don't know when I will have
:  contact with them next, I just met them thursday night - I'm pretty
:  sure my parents will see them in a month - and I would like some
:  information for them on the different software programs for this sort
:  of thing. Right now they have a Macintosh, but I think they may well
:  look into a IBM compatible because they have not found anything in
:  the Mac field. Any information would be appreciated.

There's presently one screen reader available for the Macintosh:
Outspoken from Berkeley Systems (the same people who make the After Dark
screen savers).  For IBM compatibles, there are several Windows screen
readers: a Windows version of Outspoken, Slimware Window Bridge from
Synthavoice, Protalk from Biolink and WinVision from Artic, with JAWS for
Windows soon to be released by Henter-Joyce.  Windows screen readers are
still a fairly new technology, and not all aspects of Windows are
accessible yet.  DOS screen readers are more mature, and there are more
of them; the "big five" are probably ASAP from Microtalk, Vocal-Eyes from
GW Micro, Tinytalk from OMS Development, JAWS from Henter-Joyce and
BusinessVision from Artic.  The only screen reader that I know of for
OS/2 is Screen Reader/2 from IBM.

All the manufacturers, with the possible exceptions of IBM and Artic,
make demo versions of their screen readers available.  Of course, you
need a speech synthesizer to really try them (Outspoken for the Mac uses
the system's built-in speech generation capability and doesn't require a
synthesizer).




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Subject: Re: LISTSERV for blind & computers?
From: jk-smith@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (smith john kenneth)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

patricia (or others),
        do you know of any LISTSERVs for assistive technology or
data-bases other than able-data?

thanks
John Smith



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