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                            THE BLIND NEWS DIGEST

                                 Issue # 976

                          Wednesday, June 30, 1993

Today's Topics:


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                          Memory Management Update
                           Rochester bbs off echo
                                  Tiny Talk
                            Re: cd rom and speech
                                   Readit
                                    Help
                            Braille code changesg
                           Print size recognition
                           Re: Grade Three Braille
             Re: Why can't TTY answer 300 baud caller???!!???!!


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Subject: Memory Management Update
From: Rick.Alfaro@f8.n369.z1.fidonet.org (Rick Alfaro)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:369/8 - The Catwalk BBS, Davie FL


[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hello Steve!

Tuesday June 15 1993 16:59, Steve Matzura wrote to Doug Geoffrey, VE Users:

 SM> OK guys, I just got offa da phone with Dell, my computer's manufacturer,
 SM> and got the correct command-line parameters for EMM386 so as to make things
 SM> work the way they should.  VE now loads correctly into expanded memory with
 SM> /!ME.

Although this will work, you will get better performance out of
Vocal Eyes if you load it into upper memory with the loadhigh
command.  There is definately a big difference in the 2 loading
methods.  Although the /@me switch is there to get some folks out
of a pinch, it is not the reccomended way to load ve for best
performance.  It operates much slower, and it not quite as stable
as it would be if you loaded it via loadhigh.

 SM> However, I do notice it's doing something else odd--this might be more a
 SM> function of windowing than anything else--when I go into the program I am
 SM> now using to write messages, just before it went in, it read a portion of
 SM> the screen that was formerly ocupied by something else at the DOS prompt.
 SM> When I changed conference areas to go to BLINKTALK, it also read a portiion
 SM> of the screen formerly occupied by DOS.  I'm wondering if it did that
 SM> because it loaded the new .SET file so fast and it just automatically
 SM> activated the hyperactive window I set up.

Yes, that sounds like that is exactly what is happening.  You can
try raising the value of hyper active check delay under the general
menu in the control pannel.  It is option 18.  The default is 6.
Raising the value will cause VE to check the window less
frequently.  However, this also means that it won't speak the info
as quickly when you are in your application...U usually have this
set to 1 because I like the hyperactive windows to trigger very
quickly...

Regards,
Rick

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Subject: Rochester bbs off echo
From: Bill.Burgess@p0.f401.n229.z1.fidonet.org (Bill Burgess)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:229/401.0 - The Connection HST!, Oshawa ON


[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

for the benefit of all who post to Lynn Rosenberg, Ann Parsons and
others on Pat Daugherty's bbs, I must advise you of the fact that Pat's
bbs has been disconnected from the FIDO network for reasons unknown, so
if you replied to these folks and received no reply you now know why.
Lynn netmailed me from 1:2613/229 which accepts netmail.  TTYL
Bill

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Subject: Tiny Talk
From: Eric.Bohlman@p3.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Eric Bohlman)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.3 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA


[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 DS> operating with.  One thing that makes me very unhappy is that my system
 DS> tends to lock up after about five minutes of use.  I was wondering if
 DS> this was something wrong in my setup or a feature that is due to some
 DS> disabling of an unregistered version.  I do not intend to register it

It's definitely a bug, not a feature.  What kind of machine are you
using it on?  I've been getting periodic reports of problems with
the Speech Thing, but I can't fit them into any sort of pattern.
I'm sure it will turn out to be a dopey little mistake in my code,
but I haven't been able to find it yet.

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Subject: Re: cd rom and speech
From: Paul.Henrichsen@f12.n205.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Henrichsen)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:205/12 - Stingray!, Fresno CA


[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hi, Denis.  Let me add a few titles that also work well with speech.  Autobon's
mammals and birds.  These are two separate
CD's complete with photos, sounds and
text.  The sounds, bird calls or animal sounds,
are easy to access with speech as is the text.
Monarch notes is a collection of 200 book notes, like cliff notes
incase you don't want to read the actual book.
Great literature of the world is another multi-media CD with pictures
music (violin), selected readings and actual text.  Everything but the
photos is accessible with speech.
Be careful not to buy National Geographic's mammals CD,
because it is entirely graphics based although the text essays
will speak if they are clicked on with the mouse.
I recommend this package only if you have children
or some other sighted persons in your family.
If you have windows with speech, both toolworks (grolier's)
multimedia encyclopedia for windows and Compton's interactive
encyclopedia for windows are accessible so far as
the text is concerned.
Toolworks also makes a multimedia version for MS-DOS.

... I call things as I see them; If I didn't see them, I make them up!
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Subject: Readit
From: Paul.Henrichsen@f12.n205.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Henrichsen)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:205/12 - Stingray!, Fresno CA


[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hi, everyone.  I was going to send this message
to David Justice originally, but I thought I'd send it out to everyone
I am using Artic Business Vision V3.08 on a 486 with QEMM installed
with stealth.  I have been using this setup for over a year.  When I
switched to DOS6 with doublespace and Business Vision V3.08, every time
I read a file using readit, my system locks up during the reading.
If it doesn't lock up at that time, it does so when I try to exit readit
after saving a bookmark.  I have worked with artic a bit and with Nick
Dotson, a fellow artic user and when going through the problem with him,
it dawned on me.  He didn't lock up during a read at all.  this is because
when he loads a text file, he allows readit to read the first page and
stop.  He then goes to the second page and presses the space-bar or
Artic's docu-pilot to continue to read.  After I played with this for
a while, I noticed that the only time I locked up was when I read
from the top of the file.  If I pressed the pagedown key or moved ahead
in the file and then activated a continuous read, I didn't lock up
99% of the time.  If there are any other artic users out there, try this
and let us know if you can get readit to lock when reading from the
beginning of a file.  Do you lock up after saving a bookmark and then
exiting the program?  Prior to my getting DOS6 and Business Vision, V3.08,
I had no problems.  Maybe getting a larger sample size of testers, we
can figure out what's going on and nail it down with David and Artic's
help.  I think Readit is a great program and would like to continue to
use it.  By the way, it doesn't lock up with Vocal-eyes.

... I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere!
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Subject: Help
From: Katherine.WALDEN@f51.n342.z1.fidonet.org (Katherine WALDEN)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:342/51 - LifeLine, Edmonton AB


[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

I have a friend who is visually impaired and is legally blind,
although he does have some eyesight.  He is disabled in other ways
as well, and would love to get a 'window' on the world through
modeming.  Could someone out there please tell me what equipment is
available to him, to help him with entering into bbs's.  He is
frustrated at trying to sign into boards, as by the time he
finishes reading the first few screens, his time is usually up!!!

Kath

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Subject: Braille code changesg
From: Walt.Cone@f145.n138.z1.fidonet.org (Walt Cone)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:138/145 - The Cats' Paws, Tacoma WA


[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hi George:

     I agree with you, but I had a person make me think a little
bit about braille code changes.  At present with the braille code
we use now there are some books that can not be reproduced using
the present code.  If the changes will alleviate this, then I might
be for it.  But if as I suspect the changes are being made to give
some high flown professionals something to do and pat themselves on
the back and say what a good job they are doing then I am against
that.

     Hang in there.  Don't loose allot of sleep over it, unless you
are putting the time to good use:

Walt
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Subject: Print size recognition
From: David.Tanner@f234.n109.z1.fidonet.org (David Tanner)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:109/234 - Braille Bank BBS, Oakton Va


[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Tuesday of this week I was demonstrating Reading Advantage,
OpenBook Unbound and Oscar to someone and we got some interesting
results that I hope you can explain. One of the documents we
scanned had a large print headline at the top of the article being
scanned. While all three ocr packages scanned the text rather well;
only Oscar correctly read the large print headline. Reading
Advantage got part of the headline right, but there were a number
of errors, OpenBook completely skipped the headline.

Considering we used the HP II P scanner for all three scans and
never removed the document from the scanner between the scans; what
would cause so much difference in recognition of a large print
headline? If I had tried the scans a second time do you think the
results would have been the same?

    D. T.

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Subject: Re: Grade Three Braille
From: DANNY.CRONE@f17.n123.z1.fidonet.org (DANNY CRONE)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:123/17 - Mr. Zip BBS, Memphis TN


 -=> Quoting Nancy Feldman to Randy Formenti <=-
 RF> As far as the rules go, there was a hard cover one volume book that
 RF> had the rules and a shi*load of reading material.
 NF>  ! Origin: Purgatory BBS:  Somewhere Between Heaven and Hell!
 NF> (1:3406/5.0)

Hi.  I have a book by Ruth R. Hayden intitled
THE BRAILLE CODE
A GUIDE TO GRADE THREE
Second Edition, 1958
APH, 1984

I got it from the National Braille Press.  It's a good book for me, because it

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Subject: Re: Why can't TTY answer 300 baud caller???!!???!!
From: Stu.Turk@p2.f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Stu Turk)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/26.2 - SoundingBoard, Pittsburgh PA


[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Isaac Obie of 1:101/625 wrote to Richard Stevenson:

 IO> ascii capabilities. Also the new telebraille from TSI can only
 IO> connect to compuserve at 300 baud. You can't change the parameters

What would you change even if you could?  Can you read the braille
if the data is coming at you at 300 baud?  I don't think I can read
braille even at 3 baud.   <grin>

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