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                            THE BLIND NEWS DIGEST

                                 Issue # 915

                            Monday, May 10, 1993

Today's Topics:


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                          Re: AUDIBLE TRAFFIC SIGN
                            Why i won't use jaws
                                  Inwsert R
                                Re: jaws 2.3
                                Re: jaws 2.3
                        I'd love to see one of those
                               Type and Speak
                               VCR discussion
                              LP-DOS trouble!!!


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Subject: Re: AUDIBLE TRAFFIC SIGN
From: William.Wilson@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (William Wilson)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA


[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 MF> One question only:  why didn't you walk around the block or
 MF> its equivalent when you came to the street?  that would have
 MF> clued you into what was going on.

Mike,
     For lack of a better explanation, the sounds of the environment
told me that wandering around may have resulted in something financially
and/or physicallydetrimental to my well being!  Also, as I'm sure any
Pittsburgh resident will confirm for me, what in most cities would be a
very enlightening venture in the way of orientation, here it can
honestly add to confusion!  The cases where one can take, for example,
four left turns and go around a block, arriving back at their initial
launching point, are so uncommon here, you can scarcely believe it till
you experience it!  I guess it is because the city is, after all, built
around 3 rivers that are shaped as a 'Y', and nestled between hills that
makes the occurance of actual parallel and perpendicular streets a
rarity, but seriously, finding one's way in an unfamiliar area is most
difficult in Pittsburgh unless you have very specific and detailed
instructions.  Heck, I have a sister who lives in Detroit and I have
always enjoyed my visits there, for a simple little "It's four blocks
north and one east" actually works there!  Give an instruction like that
to someone in Pittsburgh and they'll look at you like you're some sort
of an alien from another planet, for there is no north, south, or even
block here for that matter!  NOTE:  This is not just a problem for blind
people, as most every person I know who has ever moved here talks about
how they had to learn new methods of navigation in this city with
streets going in each and every direction with no obvious pattern of
rhyme or reason, but indeed, that's what it's like in most areas.

 MF> Ah well:  hindsight, unlike blindness, is 20/20 {grin}.

True, but you know, I don't think I would have done anything different
had I even known the situation this time!  I could tell by the demeanor
of the bus driver that did pick me up that he felt it important to get
me out of that area, and despite my sometimes inflated male ego and
viewing myself as a pretty tough character, in this case I am in total
agreement!
                                        Willie

... I can do it with my eyes closed!

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Subject: Why i won't use jaws
From: Jeff.Belina@f5297.n3603.z1.fidonet.org (Jeff Belina)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3603/5297 - Henter Joyce Suppor, St Petersburg FL


[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Larry Thacker wrote in a message to Chuck Oppermann:

LT> I called for a demo of Jaws in July of last year.

LT> I have the Personnal Vert system from TSI.  I asked if jaws
LT> would support my synthesizer card.  When the answer finally
LT> came, it was yes, because that system uses the Prose board.
LT> I didn't think that Personnal Vert used a Prose board, but I
LT> believed her and asked for a copy.  When I couldn't make the
LT> thing work, I double checked my suspision.  I should have
LT> known better.  I used to work for TSI.  The Prose is the
LT> board for the Vert Plus.  On learning this, I called again
LT> to ask if they were sure that Personnal Vert could be used
LT> with Jaws software.  Once again, they were sure.

Hi, this is Jeff Belina, and I am currently doing the majority of
technical support at Henter-Joyce,  I apoligize that you had this
unfortunate incident happen.  However, due to the confusing nature
of TSI's (re)naming convention for synthesizers it is hard to be
sure whether or not the synthesizer will work with JAWS.  I'm not
sure who the person(s) in question were, however we both know that
the reason they told you the Personal Vert worked was that they
were confusing the Personal Vert with the Vert Plus.  I wish I
could do something to go back in time and fix this problem for you,
however this is simply not possible.  We are considering adding a
"generic" driver to JAWS that would be able to support any
synthesizer that uses a Serial or Parallel interface or emulation.
I'm not sure how the Personal Vert works, but I found out it
requires a PV.Com or something like that to run.  Maybe that PV
program makes a LPT port for programs to send text to, if so the
generic driver would work.

Bfn,
Jeff Belina
Technical Support
Henter-Joyce, Inc.

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Subject: Inwsert R
From: Jeff.Belina@f5297.n3603.z1.fidonet.org (Jeff Belina)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3603/5297 - Henter Joyce Suppor, St Petersburg FL


[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Mitch Galloway wrote in a message to Bill Koppelmann:

MG> The insert R is one of the default macros in the JAWS
MG> configuartion files.  It reads like this:  *slashes added
MG> for clarity * If/smart toggle/ then smart speak/ label begin
MG> reads smart screen readings/ lable end/ endif.

MG>   I'm not sure why but it seems that when this feature
MG> exists I cannot get word echo to work properly.  I have
MG> smart screen turned off. I have found the insert R handy
MG> when rereading a pop up window in my database program.

That problem has been solved here recently, and I am sure they
figured out a good solution to the problem.  I won't go into great
detail but it had something to do with the macro being executed.

Bfn,
Jeff Belina
Technical Support
Henter-Joyce, Inc.

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Subject: Re: jaws 2.3
From: Jeff.Belina@f5297.n3603.z1.fidonet.org (Jeff Belina)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3603/5297 - Henter Joyce Suppor, St Petersburg FL


[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Lois Briggs wrote in a message to Mitch Galloway:

 MG>> When I go from one program to another I have to go into jaws menu
 MG>> and call up the configs for that program.  I was hoping there would
 MG>> be a way to have the configurations change as I move from program
 MG>> to program.

LB> two months now and am curious about this message.  Are you
LB> saying one could not write a batch file using, for instance
LB> one key to run a program configuration then be able to exit
LB> that program back to one's own personal, shall we call it,
LB> default setting?  For me personally, the fastest way is the
LB> most comfortable way so perhaps I wouldn't like JAWS after
LB> all.

Lois, the problem is not that JAWS does not automatically load
configurations when running different programs, indeed it does that
very well with it's autoload feature.  Where you run into problems
is when using a multitasking, or task switching program  as a go
between, unfortunately JAWS has no way of knowing that the program
has changed because of the way it looks for this information.  So
in effect when you switch back and forth between programs in this
way, JAWS does not change the configuration automatically.  This
only happens with task switchers, and happens because JAWS looks at
the name of a program when DOS executes the initial program loader,
that is the way it looks for configurations automatically.

I hope this is more enlightening than confusing...

Bfn,
Jeff Belina
Technical Support
Henter-Joyce, Inc.

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Subject: Re: jaws 2.3
From: Chuck.Oppermann@f30.n3603.z1.fidonet.org (Chuck Oppermann)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3603/30 - DreamLand Express, St Petersburg FL


[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Eric Bohlman was writting to Lois Briggs about "Re: jaws 2.3" on
04-04-93...

LB> months now and am curious about this message.  Are you saying one
LB> not write a batch file using, for instance one key to run a progr
LB> configuration then be able to exit that program back to one's own
LB> personal, shall we call it, default setting?  For me personally,
LB> fastest way is the most comfortable way so perhaps I wouldn't lik
LB> after all.

With JAWS you do not need to write any batch files to load configuration
files.  There is an Autoload feature that "knows" what program is running
and loads the correct configurations for that program or loads your
defaults if a configuration is not found.

Yours truly...Chuck Oppermann,
Henter-Joyce, Inc.
(800) 336-5658

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Subject: I'd love to see one of those
From: Donald.Roberts@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Donald Roberts)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA


[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 -=> Quoting Lisa Warner to Donald Roberts <=-

 LW> It sounds like it could easily be carried in one's purse but would it
 LW> fit in a wallet?  And how lkoud is the speech?

Hello Lisa,

The money identifier is too large to fit in a wallet.  It is
about the same height and width as a braille and speak but
is somewhat thicker.  In answer to your second question, the
speech is nothing short of excellent.

As of this writing, I have not found a bill which it could not
identify.  A bill may require several scans if it has been
through the mill, but nevertheless, I haven't found one it could
not read.

... Catch the Blue Wave!

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Subject: Type and Speak
From: Donald.Roberts@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Donald Roberts)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA


[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hello Robert,

Thank you so much for your very comprehensive assessment of
the properties of the Type and Speak.

I presently own a Braille and Speak classic and saw no need
to upgrade to the 640.  Since I write slowly using a braille
keyboard, the Type and Speak seems like a wonderful and very
viable option.  The one piece of software I would miss
while using it would be an offline reader.  I have written
configurations for Tiny Talk, Vert, and Vocal Eyes, all of which
permit me to read the message subject, to and from fields,
as well as the message text with one keystroke or one additional
keystroke if that message is continued on a second screen.
I am wondering whether one could write macros with Type and
Speak which would do essentially the same thing.

Don Roberts

... Catch the Blue Wave!

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Subject: VCR discussion
From: Donald.Roberts@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Donald Roberts)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA


[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hello Mitch,

I was pleased to read your response to my post regarding my
quest for another solid VCR.

I don't know whether you have had an opportunity to use the
Sharp talking VCR which is now out of production, but it has
a lot of great features, most all of which I blink can use
easily.  One of the nicest and one which most folks don't seem
to be aware of is the feature which allows you to move forward
or backward a designated amount of real time.  That is, suppose
you know that something you wish to listen to is about one and
one-half hours into the tape.  It is not the start of a program
but is buried in the middle of a lengthy program.  The Sharp
allows you to go into one of three index modes, pres 0 1 3 0
followed by the fast forward or rewind button as appropriate.
The machine will then move in the direction you specified
one and one-half hours in real time and then start to play at
that point.  It is a marvellous feature which I have never seen
on any other machine.  Although the counter is not usable by
a blink, the above described search mechanism almost obviates
the need for a counter and is a great work around.

The other two search modes allow you to search either for a designated
index mode (up to 99 on a tape) or to searchfor every index
mark, after which it will play for about ten seconds and then
continue to search until you tell it to stop.

I will post more later but want you to know that I now have
an RCA which allows direct entry of time and date, and does
not have some of the shortcomings of the radio shack model
which I described in my prior post.

I would put this in net mail, but I posted it here only because
I know that a lot of blinks are looking for the most functional
VCR they can find.  And because selection is necessarily limited,
it helps to have all the info you can find.

Don Roberts

... Catch the Blue Wave!

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Subject: LP-DOS trouble!!!
From: John.Cunniff@p0.f368.n101.z1.fidonet.org (John Cunniff)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:101/368.0 - The Dream's Theatre, Dorchester MA


[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hello, everybody!

I wanted to ask you a question about LP-D0S. I have a very strange news
for you. I used to call call BBS at 14.4K and the screen and the file
transfer works fine. But when I load LP-DOS then, it cause a problem
with the screen as I gets a lot of garbages on the screen so, I unloaded
LP-DOS and it works! But when I uses 2400 baud, no problem for me. I am
surprised that LP-DOS won't work well with 14.4Kbps! Any idea for this??
I don't understand that. :( Please help me. If you need any further
information, let me know and I'd be glad to reply to you as quick as I
usually do! Thank you very much!

                                                        John

... ...VOL DELETE LEVEL IS NOW 5000 SHRS..

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