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Article #415Re: Nitros problems
From: Greg Andrzejewski
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 21:49
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 21:49
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"Randy McLaughlin" <randy482@nospam.com> wrote in message news:fJRLc.15178$GT3.866@bignews6.bellsouth.net... > "Randy McLaughlin" <randy@nospam.com> wrote in message > news:_5QLc.8876$yF.8852@bignews2.bellsouth.net... > > "Greg Andrzejewski" <pressyourluck85@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:6pydnZWjzcxR12LdRVn-ug@comcast.com... > > > Hi, > > > I have a Tandy Coco 3 with a FD 501 disk drive. I'm trying to get > > Nitros > > > 9 to work, but I can't seem to figure it out. I've tried writing the > disk > > > images with two different computers with no change. The system will > either > > > lock while at the boot screen or not start booting at all. > > > My guess would be that the images are double-sided disks and the FD 501 > is > > a > > > single sided drive. Would I be right in this assumption? If so, can I > swap > > > the drive in the FD 501 with a standard PC 5.25" high density drive? Or, > > > where can I get a single-sided version of nitros? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Greg Andrzejewski > > > > You can't use 5.25" HD but you can use 3.5" HD drives. > > > > With 3.5" drive you have to stick with DD (720K) disks (or tape over the > > density hole of a HD disk). > > > > Most 3.5" drives don't have jumpers for drive select anymore. This can be > > overcome by modifying a PC cable. The motor control line needs to be > > changed. I'll look up the pinout and follow up later. It is a relatively > > simple change and you can use current drives on many antique computers. > > > > You can mound 3.5" drives in your drive case with a standard 3.5" -> 5.25" > > mounting bracket. > > > > 720K disks usually have to be specially ordered but are still very > > available. > > > > bit.listserv.coco is a good usenet group for COCO discussions. > > > > Randy > > I looked up the pinout (it's simple but I don't have it memorized). > > Take a "standard" PC floppy cable and carefully remove the connector cover > on the end with the twist. > If the connector has two covers the top one is a strain relief and usually > breaks when removed (not needed). > The cable cover has tabs on each side, using a pocket knife carefully pry > each tab away from the connector while pushing up. Sometimes the tabs catch > on a second notch before coming off, just repeat the procedure to finish. > > Pull off the part of the cable that is twisted and straighten it out. > > Separate the wires 10 through 12 (counting from the colored stripe). > > Twist just those wires and push all the wires back on the connector through > the same holes. > > Replace the cover. > > You now have a cable that uses new drives on old computers without changing > jumpers. > > Please note that the drive plugged into the connector just changed is the > first drive, the "straight" connector is the second. > > If anyone is interested pin 10 is the first DS, 11 is ground, 12 is the > second DS. > > Randy Okay, I've got everything opened up, but something just doesn't seem right. The Tandy disk drive enclosure has on spare card-edge connector. I cannot just plug this into my 3.5" drive with the card-edge to pin header adapter that came with my mounting supplies, can I? Then what do I do? Can I cross wires 10 and 12 on the tandy cable? Do I have to hook up the modified PC floppy cable to the card-edge connector on the tandy cable? Do I have to replace the cable in the enclosure altogether? Please help. I'm sorry if this is a little confisuing. Step-by-step instructions would help greatly. Thank you, Greg
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