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Re: Kwin 'feature'

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From: knudsen%ihades.UUCP.UUCP
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 19:22
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>Regardles of weather or not Kevin has been paid it woul be nice to hear from
>him on this subject. IMS can care less what happens now.

Yes, it would be nice to hear from Kev one way or the other.
IMS' rights to MM/1 and related stuff have been bought out by
David Graham of Blackhawk Enterprises, who intends to pick up most
of the balls that IMS (Paul Ward) dropped.

In particular I'd bet that David cares about the rights to
KWindows.  Not clear who owns the rights -- Kevin could probably
claim to if he can show in court he wasn't paid.
But since the MM/1 is not dead, the software still belongs to someone.

>Kevin controls the fate of those other 200 people and if he chooses to be
>spiteful because he may not have been paid I hope he knows who he is hurting.

Doubt very much that Kev D. would do anything to spite our
community.  But he might ask every MM/1 user to chip in some cash
before he thaws out KWindows for any further work.

>First IMS suckered us all to believe that there was going to be all this new
>software available from over 200 vendors and then told us that we could not

Right.  I never really believed that, I wanted the MM/1 to run
stuff I wrote myself, but I do feel for anyone who really thought
that "adult" applications like spreadsheets would show up.
Actually, I *did* believe that major vendors might port some stuff to it.

>the 9 meg bus and /t4 ports and have been waiting 2 years and received
>nothing. Others are still waiting for Manuals that they will never receive.

A very real problem seemed to be that MM/1ers were expected to get
the latest drivers and descriptors via CIS, Delphi, or friends.
Direct support via USMail was lacking.  If I hadn't been a nearby
buddy of Kev Pease, I probably wouldn't have much beyond a boot file.

>So pardon me if I feel little pity for someone who has not been paid for their
>time. We know what it feels like, because be have been there for the past 3+ ye
 ars.

True enuf.  I hope David Graham knows what he's stepping into
here, and that he will help fill in these gaps.
BTW, there were indications a few months ago that someone besides
Kev D. was now working on the KWindows.

> It is about time that we stop feeling sorry for ourselves and start
>pulling togeather in hopes that something much better will come
>of our efforts.

Fer sure.

> * Origin: The_Unknown_origin (305)/XXX-XXXX Located in Lauderhill/FL

Since you're new on this List, it would help if you'd sign your
name somewhere.  We've had some flame wars and personal insults on
this List before (and quickly cut it out), but yours is the first
anonymous posting I can recall.  --mike knudsen
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