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Article #43357

Re: CoCo2 emulator, people going off-topic...

#43357
From: ZAZOU
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1993 03:37
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I saw that infamous emulator on that equally infamous FTP site :-^}
So here's my comment (despite my Internet address, I do live in Canada)

Seems to me that a *LOT* of people are talking about it without even
SEEING the product.

-The ROM CODE *IS NOT* INCLUDED with the package.  So those who kept
flaming about *distributing* copyrighted* ROMs, stop polluting the
airwave P-L-E-A-S-E!  This has *NOTHING* to do with this emulator! YOU
ARE OFF-TOPIC!

-Second, While the author gives several hints of how to extract the ROM
code, obviously, there would be *NO* copyright violation if the CoCo
ROM code is *in use*, at *one and one place only* *at the same time*.
So, *in theory*, you can violate that copyright *if* you fired up your
CoCo *while* your PC is running the CoCo emulator, at least, that's what
the copyright laws *in Canada* say...

-Third, I do not know how does it looks in the U.S., but what goes on
in my bedroom... matters only to *me*.  The obvious market for that
emulator is for the home user.  In regard to item #2), I would have a
hard time to imagine a law officer watching what I am doing with my
computers in my home!  Sounds like those sex laws in some states that
jail people for doing things between 2 consenting adults.  Some
narrow-minded people wants to use the copyright laws in a similar
setting, apparently...

Given the venerable age of the CoCo2 and its older CoCo1 cousin, it
would be quite EASY to establish in court, that his or her CoCo was now
or about past its useful life, and it was more to salvage anything that
could be salvagable, and thus *NO* intention of running *both* the CoCo
emulator and the CoCo itself at *the same time* (which is, I repeat,
only on *THAT* ground there COULD be a copyright violation).  It is kind
of making a backup, and you're now using *THAT* backup (albeit in a
different media [on disk]) and *no longer* the original (on ROM). Still,
that makes only *ONE* copy of the code in use... on *one* machine.

-Fourth.  I've seen for the past 10 years emulators for all kind of
computers. For those I've seen, the emulators are useless unless you
have the machine it emulates, or buy the ROM directly from the author...
and telling how to bring a copy of that ROM to that host machine...
How many did get lawsuits for the past decade?  Mhhh...  Apparently,
there are some who didn't travel very far outside of their tiny CoCo
world to say such stupidities about emulators... and had never seen what
emulators for other kind of machines look like.  Sheesh.

-Fifth, I notice that the author lives in *Canada* (having an Internet
address ending in .ca and a Snail mail address in British Columbia), I'm
sure that the guy wrote his stuff with the *Canadians* copyright laws in
mind, and at a first glance, it seems to me (since I also live in
Canada) that he's not violating anything, neither his users.  So to all
"biggots" in the *U.S.*, all you can do is to make his code
*unavailable* in the *U.S.* and depriving thousands of fellow CoCoNuts
of what many Canadians now enjoy: a VERY nifty utility!  In NO WAY U.S.
laws apply... in Canada!!!  So those of you basing your opinion on
*U.S.* laws, you're again OFF-TOPIC...  So depollute the airwave PLEASE!

-Sixth.  I wonder how many of us, at one time or another, didn't make a
photocopy of a program listing from a magazine, or a recipee from a
cookbook, and then use *that* copy instead of the original afterwards,
because it's more convenient (you don't have the covers that always seem
to get in your way when you're typing, or you may spill your copy of your
recipee instead of ruining your costly cookbook, etc...). There's nothing
new under the sun...    So those Puritans who think that guy is asking
his users to commit crime... should I elaborate more?  :-^}

-Seventh, those who really feel offended should write to INTERTAN in
Barrie Ontario or Tandy in Forth Worth USA, tell them what's going on,
and so BE IT. So you'll accomplish what you think what was your moral
duty to do, and great for you and you have done your job.  It is now up
to INTERTAN lawyers in Canada and/or TANDY lawyers in the U.S. to
move... not you to keep polluting the airwave on this list.  The point
has been made, ad nauseam...

Finally, it looks to me that's a SAD state of the CoCo Community
overall.  While I no longer use my CoCo, I kept subscribing to this list
for the fun I once had,-therefore NOT having a vested interest of having
news of the CoCo world-, and certainly NOT expecting of having my
mailbox full of that kind of fertilizers, almost on daily basis for the
past few months and keep getting worse.

Just a note to those professional flame posters (you know who you are)
that your frequent *off-based* flame posts are now getting on my nerve
and (probably) on the nerve of many and for myself, you're just from an
UNSUB away to pull the plug on you once for all.

This isn't a battle field, it's a list related to CoCo stuff.  My
non-CoCo user hat makes me more of a listener than a poster here (my
last post here was 3-4 month ago, HELPING someone struggling with C's
scanf()).  More than likely, my NEXT POST will be done in a few months,
but it will be more of a farewell post than anything else, if you keep
going that way.  Capitche everyone?

-Jacques Pannetier
 Fed up, former CoCo1 (E-Board) user...
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