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Article #43357Re: CoCo2 emulator, people going off-topic...
From: ZAZOU
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1993 03:37
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1993 03:37
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I saw that infamous emulator on that equally infamous FTP site :-^} So here's my comment (despite my Internet address, I do live in Canada) Seems to me that a *LOT* of people are talking about it without even SEEING the product. -The ROM CODE *IS NOT* INCLUDED with the package. So those who kept flaming about *distributing* copyrighted* ROMs, stop polluting the airwave P-L-E-A-S-E! This has *NOTHING* to do with this emulator! YOU ARE OFF-TOPIC! -Second, While the author gives several hints of how to extract the ROM code, obviously, there would be *NO* copyright violation if the CoCo ROM code is *in use*, at *one and one place only* *at the same time*. So, *in theory*, you can violate that copyright *if* you fired up your CoCo *while* your PC is running the CoCo emulator, at least, that's what the copyright laws *in Canada* say... -Third, I do not know how does it looks in the U.S., but what goes on in my bedroom... matters only to *me*. The obvious market for that emulator is for the home user. In regard to item #2), I would have a hard time to imagine a law officer watching what I am doing with my computers in my home! Sounds like those sex laws in some states that jail people for doing things between 2 consenting adults. Some narrow-minded people wants to use the copyright laws in a similar setting, apparently... Given the venerable age of the CoCo2 and its older CoCo1 cousin, it would be quite EASY to establish in court, that his or her CoCo was now or about past its useful life, and it was more to salvage anything that could be salvagable, and thus *NO* intention of running *both* the CoCo emulator and the CoCo itself at *the same time* (which is, I repeat, only on *THAT* ground there COULD be a copyright violation). It is kind of making a backup, and you're now using *THAT* backup (albeit in a different media [on disk]) and *no longer* the original (on ROM). Still, that makes only *ONE* copy of the code in use... on *one* machine. -Fourth. I've seen for the past 10 years emulators for all kind of computers. For those I've seen, the emulators are useless unless you have the machine it emulates, or buy the ROM directly from the author... and telling how to bring a copy of that ROM to that host machine... How many did get lawsuits for the past decade? Mhhh... Apparently, there are some who didn't travel very far outside of their tiny CoCo world to say such stupidities about emulators... and had never seen what emulators for other kind of machines look like. Sheesh. -Fifth, I notice that the author lives in *Canada* (having an Internet address ending in .ca and a Snail mail address in British Columbia), I'm sure that the guy wrote his stuff with the *Canadians* copyright laws in mind, and at a first glance, it seems to me (since I also live in Canada) that he's not violating anything, neither his users. So to all "biggots" in the *U.S.*, all you can do is to make his code *unavailable* in the *U.S.* and depriving thousands of fellow CoCoNuts of what many Canadians now enjoy: a VERY nifty utility! In NO WAY U.S. laws apply... in Canada!!! So those of you basing your opinion on *U.S.* laws, you're again OFF-TOPIC... So depollute the airwave PLEASE! -Sixth. I wonder how many of us, at one time or another, didn't make a photocopy of a program listing from a magazine, or a recipee from a cookbook, and then use *that* copy instead of the original afterwards, because it's more convenient (you don't have the covers that always seem to get in your way when you're typing, or you may spill your copy of your recipee instead of ruining your costly cookbook, etc...). There's nothing new under the sun... So those Puritans who think that guy is asking his users to commit crime... should I elaborate more? :-^} -Seventh, those who really feel offended should write to INTERTAN in Barrie Ontario or Tandy in Forth Worth USA, tell them what's going on, and so BE IT. So you'll accomplish what you think what was your moral duty to do, and great for you and you have done your job. It is now up to INTERTAN lawyers in Canada and/or TANDY lawyers in the U.S. to move... not you to keep polluting the airwave on this list. The point has been made, ad nauseam... Finally, it looks to me that's a SAD state of the CoCo Community overall. While I no longer use my CoCo, I kept subscribing to this list for the fun I once had,-therefore NOT having a vested interest of having news of the CoCo world-, and certainly NOT expecting of having my mailbox full of that kind of fertilizers, almost on daily basis for the past few months and keep getting worse. Just a note to those professional flame posters (you know who you are) that your frequent *off-based* flame posts are now getting on my nerve and (probably) on the nerve of many and for myself, you're just from an UNSUB away to pull the plug on you once for all. This isn't a battle field, it's a list related to CoCo stuff. My non-CoCo user hat makes me more of a listener than a poster here (my last post here was 3-4 month ago, HELPING someone struggling with C's scanf()). More than likely, my NEXT POST will be done in a few months, but it will be more of a farewell post than anything else, if you keep going that way. Capitche everyone? -Jacques Pannetier Fed up, former CoCo1 (E-Board) user...
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 110568,48018e064cd19549,start X-Google-Attributes: gid110568,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1993-12-07 17:59:35 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmd.de!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!paladin.american.edu!auvm!DELPHI.COM!ZAZOU Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU Newsgroups: bit.listserv.coco Return-Path: <@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU:COCO@PUCC.BITNET> X-VMS-To: INTERNET"coco@pucc.princeton.edu" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Message-ID: <01H627C584CI90R4U3@delphi.com> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 23:37:56 -0400 Reply-To: ZAZOU@DELPHI.COM Sender: COCO - Tandy Color Computer List <COCO@PUCC.BITNET> From: ZAZOU@DELPHI.COM Subject: Re: CoCo2 emulator, people going off-topic... Lines: 94