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**************     Conyers Apparitions     **************
 Journal of Reported Teachings and Messages of Our Lord
     and Our Loving Mother at Conyers, Georgia, USA
        Compiled by Our Loving Mother's Children,
            P.O. Box 309, Conyers, GA. 30012
                    www.conyers.org
           Internet Email Edition - April 1998
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             "I HAVE CREATED MANY WITNESSES.
               LET THEM GO OUT AND SPEAK."
                             
                Jesus - October 13, 1995

     Jesus has truly created many witnesses to speak about
the events and messages of Conyers.  Over the years many
pilgrims have shared their experiences at Conyers of
spiritual conversions and growth and many special graces from
God ranging from the unexplainable scent of roses to rosaries
turning a golden color, to the spinning sun, to more profound
physical, emotional and spiritual healings.
     Jesus has also created some special witnesses who have
experienced the same visions with Nancy.  Other special wit-
nesses are the doctors and scientists who have tested Nancy
and who were astonished at the scientifically unexplainable
results of the tests.  [See the June '93 and July '94 Conyers
Journals.]
     Jesus has also used a statue as a "witness".  As He
foretold to Nancy, Jesus left a sign in Cochabamba, Bolivia
in March of 1995.  A statue of Christ bearing the crown of
thorns, the Christ of Limpias, began to weep the day Nancy
departed from Bolivia.  Later the statue began to shed blood
which tested to be human blood.  After much study, the
Archbishop of Cochabamba declared the statue to be worthy of
veneration by the faithful.  [See the April '97, May '97 and
March '98 Conyers Journals.]
     The weeping and bleeding statue was not the only witness
that Jesus created in Cochabamba, Bolivia.


           THE BOLIVIAN STIGMATIST AND VISIONARY

     In October of 1993 during Nancy's second trip to
Bolivia, Catalina Rivas, a 47 year old, married woman,
experienced a spiritual conversion after hearing a talk by
Nancy.
     Afterwards Catalina began to receive messages from Jesus
through inner locutions.  Dr. Ricardo Castañon, the Bolivian
doctor who had organized the initial medical and scientific
testing of Nancy, was asked to investigate Catalina's claims
of mystical experiences.
     In his pleasant, Spanish accented English, Dr. Castañon
described his initial meeting with Catalina:

     "We had already studied some visionaries in other coun-
tries.  Then a priest told me: 'There is a woman in
Cochabamba who says she receives messages from Jesus and the
Blessed Mother.  Can you study her?'
     "So I went to visit this lady.  I have to tell you that
I was a bit skeptical because she was married three times and
normally we have the idea that a woman who is in this way is
difficult to be a messenger of God ... 
     "I arrived at Cochabamba the 24th of June 1994.  I had
an interview with her for a long time, many hours.  I didn't
see that she was lying, but in my opinion, when I study a
person, I make something that we call depistage which means
that I use an instrument to measure the electrical activity
of the skin.
     "Using this instrument on the visionaries that I have
studied for the first time, I have monitored some pulsations,
say for example, 17 or 15 in one second.  That shows me an
electrical activity in her brain through the skin.  And she
had 15, 16, 17.  But when I saw an authentic visionary, I
said, 'can you pray please?'  And the instrument went to 2,
to 1 or to zero,  like with Nancy Fowler or with Patricia
Talbot ... it went to 2 or 4.  With Nancy it disappeared, not
any electrical activity, and it is impossible for a person
to do something like that herself.
     "But with Catalina, nothing happened.  She was praying,
she was doing many things, many tests, and I didn't have any
reason to say, 'something extraordinary happens with you.'
     "And I said to her, 'you have many nice messages, you
have written more or less one book.  But also a poet can
write so nice, a philosopher also.  
     "But she said, 'I have messages from Jesus.'  I said,
'Maybe you must be prudent, don't talk that you have
messages.  You can say you have inspirations, because through
the Holy Spirit, every Christian has inspiration.'
     "And she said, 'Okay'.  But I said something very
important ... I said, 'I don't think you are lying to me, but
to say that you have authentic experiences, I must have some
register in my instruments and I have nothing.  Then, if it
is from God what you have, and if He wants that everybody
know that you spread His messages, He must give you a proof
that we can test, that we can measure, that we can see, and
it must be repeatable.
     "Then if it doesn't happen, it is only for you, this
experience, and keep it for yourself."

               THE STIGMATA AND THE HOLY HILL

     After Dr Castanon's initial meeting,  Catalina came on
a pilgrimage to Conyers for the October 1994 anniversary
apparition.  Catalina, whose native language is Spanish and
who can understand very little English, later described in
Spanish her experience that October day on the Holy Hill in
Conyers as she knelt before the life-sized crucifix of
Christ.  The following is a translation of Catalina's
description:

     "I saw a light all around the Christ, a very strong
light.  And then I saw the necessity to offer my life to the
Lord, so that He could use it in whatever way He needed to
use it, to give Him thanks for all that He did for me.
     "Then I closed my eyes and I stayed praying and, when
I opened them, two very strong lights came out of the hands
of my Lord and I felt like a lightning bolt had gone through
my own hands.  I felt the strong pain, and then a light came
out of His feet, and it came to my own feet, the light split
in two to my two feet.  The third light came out of His side,
it went straight to my heart, and there I fell to the ground
because the pain was too strong.
     "The following Friday, when we were in Costa Rica, 
there the Lord told me: 'Enjoy the gift that I have given you
in Conyers because there are many people that ask Me for this
- to share the suffering of My Cross - and this I reserve
only for those that are capable to love Me as I need to be
loved.'
     "Then I asked Him, 'It [the stigmata] should not be seen
ever'.  And He told me:  'For now, no.  But, when I think it
is necessary, this can be seen by all. . .'

             THE MANIFESTATION OF THE STIGMATA

     In the months that followed the October 13, 1995 appar-
ition, Nancy's life changed, becoming increasingly more
difficult.  During that apparition Jesus told Nancy, "You
will be returning to more solitary prayer.  I will be drawing
you unto My bosom.  Today your life takes a new direction. 
Through your writing, My messages will be delivered to the
world."  As Nancy entered a very difficult phase in her life,
Jesus was raising another public witness, Catalina Rivas, to
support Nancy by bearing witness to the Conyers apparitions. 
     Dr. Castañon described what occurred next with Catalina: 

     "It was the last week of January 1996, and Mr. Carlos
Canelas, a friend of Catalina, a friend of mine, called me
and he said, 'Ricardo, I think that the proof that you were
waiting for has arrived, come to the hospital.'
     "I went to the hospital ... and I saw this lady,
Catalina.  Eighteen months had passed since I had seen her. 
She now had some wounds in her hands, very deep.  The doctor
said that she had an ecchymosis.  She was hurt as if someone
could have hit her with something.
     "When I was there, she said, 'Now I have the proof,
something is happening with me.'
     "The doctors came.  All of them said that she was ill,
they didn't know how she made the wounds but all of them were
convinced that she could have made it with something hard,
like a hammer, or somebody could have done it to her.  She
had the wounds of the stigmata in the hands and in the feet.
     "We saw that it was such a terrible wound.  We were
surprised.  I was worried, because she said that it comes
from Jesus.  I didn't know if it was but I was interested in
knowing how could it happen and what will happen tomorrow. 
And then she said, 'I suffer, but tomorrow I will have
nothing.'
     "That was for me very, very funny, because with such a
serious wound, how could you say that tomorrow you will have
nothing.  The doctors also said, 'it is impossible for the
wounds to disappear so suddenly, that you need at least one
month or maybe two months to heal.'
     "The next day was Saturday.  I went and she had nothing,
the wounds had healed.

             ADDITIONAL WITNESSES OBSERVE THE
              MANIFESTATION OF THE STIGMATA

     Dr. Castañon now began to now seriously study Catalina's
mystical experience.  He later described his studies:

     "When I see someone like that, I say, 'What's going on?
This woman has such a power in her mind that she can produce
these things?'  But I am studying this phenomena more or less
5 years in different countries, different people, and I know
that in many countries there are persons who have stigmata,
wounds similar to those that we say Jesus had.
     "The 4th of July 1996, Catalina went from Cochabamba,
a city in Bolivia, to another city, where she had to give a
talk.  I saw her at 12:30.  We went to the restaurant to have
a meal.  She said she wanted to eat, she wanted a soup.  She
was very normal.  Everything clear and then she said, 'I
don't feel well'.
     "I asked, 'Catalina, what do you want?  You don't feel
well?'  And because she has had many, many of these
experiences in other moments, and it was Friday, First Friday
of the month,  I say, 'Are you going to have stigmata?'. 
'Yes,'  she said, 'Jesus asked me: Can you help Me today?' 
 And then she told me, 'Yes, Jesus told me I would have the
stigmata.'
     "While she was talking, I saw some points, small wounds
on her forehead with a little bit of blood.  Then we knew
that she was not feeling so well, and she went to her room. 
Maybe 20 minutes later, from the front of her forehead you
could see some blood coming down, and the hands began also
to bleed, on both sides, and also the feet, and she began to
suffer a lot.  We have some video shots of that ... and she
suffers as a person who is dying, because she has no air, she
cannot breathe.  I saw the process, the complete process of
the manifestation of the stigmata, especially that day, the
4th of July.  I was a witness from the beginning to the end."

     Ron Tesoriero, the Australian lawyer and documentary
producer who has produced a series of books and videos on the
Conyers apparitions and related mystical events in Bolivia,
has produced a new video documentary, "For All Humanity",
containing impressive film footage of Catalina as she exper-
ienced the stigmata.  Ron describes Catalina's experience:

     "The footage we have obtained of her experience of the
visible stigmata is most impressive.  The video footage and
the testimonies of witnesses we recorded, reveal that on
certain Fridays at 12.30, from nothing, certain open wounds
begin to appear, become progressively severe, and to bleed. 
These wounds appear on the front and back of both hands, and
on the top and bottom of both feet, and on her side, and at
certain points around her forehead.  These wounds seemingly
reflect visually what is believed to have been the injuries
inflicted on Christ during His crucifixion.
     "Throughout this experience, which lasts between 12:30
and 3:00 p.m., Catalina is seen and heard to experience the
pain and agony which might be expected of a person with the
severe injuries that can be seen on her body.  Mysteriously,
the experience ends at 3.00 pm and the injuries, which a
doctor present at the time says should take six to eight
weeks to heal, vanished by the next day."

     It was after seeing a sign like he wanted, the dramatic
appearance and disappearance of Catalina's stigmata, that Dr.
Castañon began to study closely Catalina's numerous messages. 
He later commented upon these messages:

     "Well, this lady didn't finish high school, and she has
written eight books, big books ...  In two weeks, after the
stigmata first appeared in her flesh in early January of
1996, she has written  about 900 handwritten pages.  The
content of the messages talks about theology, human life,
divine spirituality . . . there is no theological mistake,
and the priests have read them, especially Salesian and
Jesuit priests and they didn't find any mistake.
     "She says Jesus will dictate to her and she gets a
tachycardia, which means that the heart begins to beat very
fast.  And she says, 'always when Jesus tells me something
I have this feeling.'  I have touched her heart in this
moment, and really she has tachycardia.  And she begins to
write.  I see that she does not stop, she writes continuously
all the time.  She has not the moment to stop and think about
it.  If you write a letter to your friend, you take your time
and sometimes you stop.   She doesn't, she writes
continuously, all the time.  
     "And the Spanish she uses is very elegant.  I have read
now more than 25,000 messages from visionaries all over the
world, but no one has this beauty that I see in these books.
     "We wanted to study her, to see her stigmata, to study
more about her behavior.  We have done it, but when we wanted
to go deeper, taking some blood samples of her stigmata, but
the Bishop said, 'What more proof do you want?  What else do
you want?  You have eight books ... I know theology and
everything that she has written is perfect."

     Ron Tesoriero describes the impact of Catalina's
messages on her Archbishop: 

     "The Bishop of the city, Bishop Fernandez, has expressly
acknowledged Catalina's genuineness.  The Bishop believes
that what Catalina has written during her experiences is
beyond the ability of her, or indeed any human being, to
write.  He believes that the messages contain such poetry and
historically anthropologically and theologically accurate
content that could only have come from God.
     "This would seem to be one of the rare cases in modern
times where a Bishop has acknowledged the authenticity of a
visionary's supernatural experiences and regarded the
messages to be of such significant content that they are
worthy of dissemination to the hierarchy of the Church."

     Ron Tesoriero further describes the impact in South
America of Catalina's messages:

     "This spiritual revival now spreading from Bolivia comes
thanks to the humility and wisdom of a bishop and a nation
deeply moved by a sequence of extraordinary happenings.  It
is a spiritual revival powered by the feeling of a meaningful
presence of Christ as seen in the tears that were
mysteriously shed from Christ's crucified image and in all
that is happening to Nancy and Catalina."

               THE WARNINGS OF A GREAT WAR

     What is particularly interesting, is the coincidental
nature of a message that Nancy received in Conyers on October
13, 1997, and a message received by Catalina on October 14,
1997 in South America.  Catalina has said that the message
she received was given to her to confirm the message that was
given to Nancy the day before.
     On October 13, 1997 after the Blessed Mother reminded
the world of the requests she made at Fatima, 80 years before
to the day, she said to Nancy:

        "Please, children, you must not offend God
     any longer.  I come with a serious warning.  A
     great war will come upon this world, greater than
     man has ever known.
        "Pray, children, pray.  Amend your ways. 
     Please.  I invite you to pray the Rosary for
     peace."

     Catalina was unaware of the above Conyers message when
on October 14, 1997, Jesus gave her, as part of a larger
message, the following words (translated from Spanish):

        "My little Daughter, ask Dr. Ricardo to get
     the message of Conyers.   Very bitter times are
     awaiting humanity with a war as never was and
     never will be again.  If man does not respond very
     soon and come back to God he will receive
     something more terrible than he can imagine."


               THE ARCHBISHOP'S IMPRIMATUR
                             
     On April 2, 1998 Archbishop Fernández gave the following
Imprimatur to the eight books with Catalina's messages:


                       IMPRIMATUR:

     We have read Catalina's books and we are sure that their
only objective is to guide us all on a journey of authentic
spirituality, founded on the Gospel of Christ. The books
likewise highlight the special place occupied by the Blessed
Virgin Mary, our role model in loving and following Jesus
Christ, our Mother to whom we should offer our complete trust
and love.
     In renewing the love and devotion to the Holy Catholic
Church, the books enlighten us on the actions that should
characterize a truly committed Christian.
     For all this, I authorize their edition and
distribution, and recommend them as texts of meditation and
spiritual orientation, with the purpose of answering Our
Lord's calling to save many souls, showing them that He is
a living God, full of love and mercy.

+ Mons. Rene Fernandez Apaza
Archbishop of Cochabamba
April 2, l998


     Many of Catalina's messages for which the Archbishop has
given his Imprimatur are now available in Spanish on the
Internet World Wide Web at:    www.grancruzada.org 
     The Web site includes further background information in
both Spanish and English as well as English translations of
the messages as they are completed.

[Note: "www.grancruzada.org" was updated on July 15, 1998 with
the first set of draft English translations of Catalina's
messages.]

     An excellent overview of the scientific and medical
studies concerning the Conyers apparitions and the related
events in Bolivia, including some actual footage of Catalina
experiencing the stigmata, are available in the new
documentary "For All Humanity" produced by Ron Tesoriero. 
Information on this video follows.

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                 THE NEWEST CONYERS VIDEO
       FOR ALL HUMANITY - UN LLAMADO A LA HUMANIDAD

     The newest video has just been released in both English
and Spanish versions! A series of RELATED, scientifically
inexplicable happenings in both North America and South
America are examined in this documentary. The questions it
raises for science and religion could have important
implications for all humanity.

     *    A statue of Christ mysteriously weeps and bleeds in
     Cochabama, Bolivia
 
     *    In the same city, a theologically-uneducated woman,
     who bears the wounds of Christ's Crucifixion,
     writes in a continuous fashion, profound theological
     teachings, which she says are dictated to her by
     Christ. 

     *    Another women, in North America, claims that Christ
     and the Virgin Mary are appearing to her and giving
     important messages for the world. Unusual phenomena
     in the sky are seen and neurologists are astonished
     by their findings.

     The camera is present to record these extraordinary
happenings and follow the path of investigation.  The result,
a unique documentary, which makes an important contribution
in determining whether it is just coincidental, unexplainable
phenomena, or evidence of the hand of God reaching out to
humanity.

     To order this video, send $23.00 ($20 + $3 S&H) to: Our
Loving Mother's Children, P. O. Box 82000, Conyers, GA 30013.
Please indicate English and/or Spanish on your order.

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                         PETITIONS
     Prayer petitions can either be sent by e-mail or
U.S. mail for placement in the room where the Blessed
Mother appears at the Conyers apparition site.  The
e-mail address is "petitions4heaven@mindspring.com" and
the U.S. Mail address is: Our Loving Mother's Children,
P.O. Box 309, Conyers, GA 30012.

        HEARING AND RECEIVING THE CONYERS MESSAGES

     The printed Conyers Journal is available for free.  To
receive, please send a supply of six stamped, self-addressed
envelopes to the address on the first page of this Journal. 
Use 4" by 9 ½" envelopes with $0.32 U.S. postage on each
envelope.  Please consider including a donation to cover the
Journal printing costs and any future increase in postage.

     To receive the Journal by electronic mail, send a
request to:
             ciscokid@acadiacom.net   or
             Scott_Schone@prodigy.com   or
             countrycajun@kaplantel.net

or access them on the World Wide Web at the new address:

               http://www.conyers.org

or access via a computer BBS (configured 8/N/1/9600 baud)
call: 407-783-6572,,,,22222222 

    If you need further information, please call the
apparition site at 770-922-8885 between the hours of
11:00 am and 2:45 pm (Eastern time), Monday through
Saturday.

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