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Re: page numbers in citations

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From: John G Norman
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 1995 00:00
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anna@email.unc.edu (Anna Mccarthy) wrote:

>I will say that endnote is not the greatest program for humanities-type 
>reference styles. They got a bunch of stuff wrong in the Turabian format. 
>But it's better than nothing.

Could we get a bit of a dialogue going on this newsgroup about EndNote
in the humanities? Niles needs to hear more of this.

--One thing that has always been a concern of mine is that I'd really
like to put my temporary citations in footnotes, and then have EndNote
update them *in place*. This way I'd have my formatted references
right where they belong--in the footnote or endnote.

It is true that I can paste a formatted note in while I'm writing--but
then I lose the ability to change the format later on.

--Save searches with useful names.

--"Live" clipboard. Show a formatted footnote when a reference is
clicked on while browsing the database.

--Page number abbreviations according to styles. (See, e.g., the
Chicago Manual of Style, 13th ed., section 8.67)

--One-shot page numbers for footnotes / endnotes. One would enter the
inclusive page numbers for journal articles in the database. And then
if you want to cite ONE PAGE, the page number specified in a temporary
reference would take precedence over the one in the database.

--Short form for second citations. Again, especially good for
traditional footnotes / endnotes.

--Translator field. The translator field should take names in Last,
First M. format, just as for authors and editors. Why? It's just one
more detail to remember. Computers are good at this kind of thing. Why
should *I* remember such arcana?

--Deal with blank (no author) author fields gracefully. Including
alphabetization.

--Titles. Need to specify sentence / headline style capitalization
according to style (for British publications). One would probably
enter all titles in Sentence-style format, since a computer can easily
figure out from that how to do headline style.

--Book titles within titles. (I.e., know not to italicize the inner
title, according to some styles.)

--Punctuation in styles. Move punctuation outside of the trailing
quotation marks for articles.

--Editor and translator the same: Replace with "ed. and trans." or
whatever is appropriate for the style.

--Place of publication. Ability to suppress, say, State abbreviations
if in database. Ability to suppress country (the inclusion of "Eng."
for Cambridge, England publications) when the publication will be in
that country.
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From: jgn+@osu.edu (John G Norman)
Subject: Re: page numbers in citations
Date: 1995/12/07
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