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Article #599more endnote problems
From: bob pasker
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 16:48
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 16:48
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i still have not received any answer to my query of 4 weeks ago about problems formatting using both series title and series editor in chicago style. i now have some new major problems that have cropped up after a few months of heavy use. creating an independent bibliography according to the instructions is a daunting task if you want to keep updating them. i need to share hardcopy topical bibliographies of about a hundred items; we keep making changes to said bibliographies and there is no easy way to have endnote+ 1.3 replace citation markers with fully formatted bibliographic entries. e.g.: ----- Topic 1 [author1 1991] [author3 1991] [author5 1991] Topic 2 [author4 1991] [author2 1991] etc. ----- should be formatted as: ----- Topic 1 author1. title. place: publisiher, date. author3. title. place: publisiher, date. author5. title. place: publisiher, date. Topic 2 author4. title. place: publisiher, date. author2. title. place: publisiher, date. etc. ----- instead, i get: ----- Topic 1 (author1 1991) (author3 1991) (author5 1991) Topic 2 (author4 1991) (author2 1991) etc. author1. title. place: publisiher, date. author2. title. place: publisiher, date. author3. title. place: publisiher, date. author4. title. place: publisiher, date. author5. title. place: publisiher, date. etc. ----- which is worthless for maintaining 4 bibliographies of over 100 entries. making up a special field in endnote and sorting the bibliography by that field before formatting is also not applicable because each item may appear multiple times in multiple bibliographies. the second major problem is that support for chicago style is woefully inadequate. it is most inappropriate to use "(author date)"-style citations in history. i thought i could get away with having two styles, chicago and chicagoFN, for bibs and footnotes, respectively, but that doesn't really work very well because i still have to go back and replace subsequent occurrances of footnotes with short cites and ibid/idem. furthermore, in footnotes, one cites the piece to which one refers, but the bibliography cites only the ENTIRE WORK. this is not feasable. support for reprint editions is completely lacking. this is especially problematic for original documents. i keep references to published collections of essays, which i need to cite both independently and as a whole. becuase endnotes is "flat," i need to keep all the essays in a single entry or have an entry for each collection of essays or both! furthermore, essays can be reprints of articles that previously appeared in journals. there is no support for this. if i receive new information about a volume which has 20 essays, i need to update 21 records! in short, if i could get my money back for endnotes, i would do so in a minute. even though there is a 30-day moneyback guarantee, it was only after six months of use in varying conditions that i have determined that it makes more work for me, not less. it is also VERY slow to boot and, on the Macintosh, the thermometer bars that show progress are worthless. furthermore, i would steer those who are in the humanities away from endnotes and encourage them to try procite instead. -- -- bob pasker -- brown u., dept. of history -- rbp@brown.edu --
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 107cb9,deab4af951123664,start X-Google-Attributes: gid107cb9,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-06-19 10:31:03 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!nntp.gmd.de!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!cat.cis.Brown.EDU!poncho-slip3.cis.brown.edu!user From: rbp@brown.edu (bob pasker) Newsgroups: bit.listserv.endnote Subject: more endnote problems Followup-To: bit.listserv.endnote Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 12:48:26 -0400 Organization: brown university Lines: 91 Message-ID: <rbp-190694124826@poncho-slip3.cis.brown.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: poncho-slip3.cis.brown.edu