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Article #100The KT/KM and Christianit
From: Ron Boutwell
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 1994 08:02
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 1994 08:02
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This is in reply to Bill Hickey who said: BH@FROM :hickeyb@bvsd.k12.co.us BH>�(Continued from last message) BH>By the way, just as a morsel to fan the flames, there are BH>religions in the world which do not have a "supreme" Being BH>or single God, some of them have thrived for millenia. By BH>requiring a candidate to believe in a single God (by whatever BH>name) and have a "Volume of the Sacred Law" (what about BH>cultures and languages with NO written form?) are we not BH>ourselves engaging in a form of religious discrimination? BH>Are we not saying that men from those "other" religions BH>are not/can not be moral, upright, and meet with us on the BH>level? Are we not judging their beliefs as somewhat inferior BH>(maybe incompatible would be a better word here) to our own? BH>If this is true, and it is OK for Craft Freemasons to BH>"discriminate" on this basis of religion, then where is the BH>conflict with the KT/KM being an organization, building on BH>Craft Masonic principles, but which adds the unique BH>additional requirement of being a Christian? You know, a year or two ago, I would have agreed with you on this, but since, I have met masons who are of a religion that believes in multiple Gods. One man in particular is an "Odinist" He worships the old Nordic gods: Odin, Thor, etc.... Alledgedly there were multiple books on the alter when he took his degrees (g). The idea isn't so much that the Mason be monotheistic it seems, but rather that he holds one God above all others as the creator of all things including the other Gods. For the brother I mentioned, Odin fits this description. And there are many ways for even we Christians to interpret the bible. Many Christians say the bible states clearly that there are no other Gods. It really isn't so clear. Actually the bible says: "You shall have no OTHER God BEFORE me.". The implication is that it is possible for other Gods to exist, but Christians are not supposed to worship them. In the brother's case above, he admits that he believes other Nordic deities exist, but he does not worship them. he worships Odin whom he claims is the Nordic "chief God in charge" as well as the creator of all. It seems to me that most polytheistic religions also believe there is always one creator God above all the rest even if they believe there are others. --- * CMPQwk 1.4 #648 * He who dies with the most toys is dead.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 115ce7,6849f676beb02021,start X-Google-Attributes: gid115ce7,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-07-09 04:08:38 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!bga.com!news.sprintlink.net!redstone.interpath.net!ddsw1!news.kei.com!yeshua.marcam.com!usc!sdd.hp.com!nigel.msen.com!emory!nntp.msstate.edu!paladin.american.edu!auvm!indy.com!ron.boutwell Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU Newsgroups: bit.listserv.freemasonry Comments: ******************************************************** Comments: * The following "Approved" statement verifies header * Comments: * information for gateway passage. No approval of the * Comments: * content is implied. * Approved: NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU * Comments: ******************************************************** Resent-Message-Id: <m0qMXae-000EvDC@dorite.use.com> Reply-To: freemasonry@indy.com Resent-From: freemasonry@indy.com Sender: root@indy.com Subject: The KT/KM and Christianit From: ron.boutwell@indy.com (Ron Boutwell) Message-ID: <79.282.975@indy.com> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 94 03:02:00 -0500 Organization: The User Friendly BBS (317) 784-0520 Lines: 47