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Article #203Donald Williams / Knights
From: Robert Adams
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 1994 18:24
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 1994 18:24
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Upon Sat 02-Jul-1994 12:20 thus spake Ron Boutwell unto Tammy1351@aol.com: RB> In fact, I have been told that if you go to a lot of European countries RB> (especially where the present day Knights of Malta are HQ'ed) and you RB> wear Masonic pins that show you to holdthe degrees of Knights of Malta RB> or Knights Templar, or really anything showing you to have recieved the RB> title "Knight" or "Sir", you are subject to legal consequences. Definitely. The various branches of the legitimate Order of Saint John and the Sovereign Order of Knights Templar don't take kindly to that sort of thing. RB> It seems the European countries where there are still lines of nobility in RB> existence take a dim view of someone who claims to be of noble blood RB> when they are not. Actually, it has nothing to do with nobiliary claims. The charge is "Pre- suming a Predicate"... e.g. a title or honorific. Actually, a knight is not even a member of the nobility... whose lowest inclusive rank is Baron. RB> This topic came up about six months ago back in the Compuserve Masonic RB> Forum. A Mason from France warned us all about taking trips abroad RB> while wearing Knightly distinctions. We could easily end up RB> incarcerated for it. Especially in France, which refuses to acknowledge any honors _other_ than it's own. * "I say nuke 'em from orbit, Jim. It's the only way to be sure." --- D'Bridge/FastEcho �/GoldED/USR 28.8k * Origin: Robert Adams (radams@cs.wmich.edu) (1:2201/38)
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 115ce7,639fb37e5ac197a,start X-Google-Attributes: gid115ce7,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-07-06 11:24:00 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!bga.com!news.sprintlink.net!redstone.interpath.net!ddsw1!panix!zip.eecs.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!paladin.american.edu!auvm!indy.com!robert.adams Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU Newsgroups: bit.listserv.freemasonry Comments: ******************************************************** Comments: * The following "Approved" statement verifies header * Comments: * information for gateway passage. No approval of the * Comments: * content is implied. * Approved: NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU * Comments: ******************************************************** Resent-Message-Id: <m0qMzlB-000EunC@dorite.use.com> Reply-To: freemasonry@indy.com Resent-From: freemasonry@indy.com Sender: root@indy.com Subject: Donald Williams / Knights From: robert.adams@indy.com (Robert Adams) Message-ID: <79.321.975@indy.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 94 13:24:00 -0500 Organization: The User Friendly BBS (317) 784-0520 Lines: 32