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Re: Bias of north-oriented maps?

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From: Don Widders
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 09:03
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<aloe@rev.net> wrote in message news:3b8b2d17.20777083@news.rev.net...
> On Fri, 24 Aug 2001 14:42:03 -0700, "Don Widders"
> <widders@talkwithoutdifficulty.org> wrote:
>
> >Albeit insensitive to the hypersensitive, there is only one trend
> >current or historical:  North at the top.
>
> A trend is a course or drift in a direction. Do you allege that maps
> are more likely now than in years past to be north-topped?

The same old course (of north-topped maps) hasn't changed as far as I can
see.  Of course, in your office you would be around a lot more sideways maps
than I've ever seen, so maybe you believe you've created a course in a new
direction.  Did something I wrote lead you to believe I don't know the
meaning of the word trend?  If there are millions of maps in the world and
all but a few of them show North on top, it can definitely be said there is
a trend and I do not see that the trend has changed.

>
> >Which 'we' has heard a number of complaints and how many is the number?
You
> >did say "Aussies" and not 'Aussie', so I take it there are two of them
> >complaining.
>
> Complaints have also come from Argentina, Chile, New Zealand, etc.
>

Those Aussies really get aroung, eh?

> >Funny, the grass is always greener on the other side.
>
> Erma Bombeck observed that _The Grass Is Always Greener Over the
> Septic Tank_.
>
> >I've always wished I
> >lived on the "underside" of the world just to see if the toilets really
do
> >flush the other way.
>
> What is this obsession with excretory functions? Are you still in the
> anal stage of development?

It was YOU who brought up Erma Brombeck's observation and YOU who brought up
excretory functions.  I never heard this Erma Brombeck observation before
and consider it irrelevent to this thread.  The effect to which I was
refering is called the Coriolis effect (after the French mathematician,
Gaspard de Coriolis, 1792-1893) and has nothing to do with excretory
functions.  What is this obsession, indeed?

>
> >"...convey the earth's
> >rotation..." -- yeah right! lol  Never heard of a horizontal scroll bar?
>
> Most web pages scroll vertically. They can be designed to scroll
> horizontally. Because the left edge displays first, a map on such a
> page should show east on the left; west on the right.

Hey, call me stupid -- I just can't understand that little gem!  Tell me
again why this map needs to show east on the left; west on the right??

>
> > Do
> >you really believe that if you were standing on the moon looking at the
> >Earth you would position yourself so that the Earth was spinning from
bottom
> >to top?
>
> Standing on the moon, I wouldn't need a computer to see it. With the
> naked eye, I would not perceive the rotation. (Either a high-power
> telescope or time-lapse photography would help.)

Again, it was YOU who brought up standing on the moon.  Of course you
conveniently snipped that out of your reply, but go back and read your post.
Better yet, here's a quote: "we try to use the scrolling to
convey the earth's rotation (as might be seen from the moon)."  So now
you're telling me you can't perceive the earth's rotation from the moon.  So
what's your point?

>
> -- Eartha Underall <http://www.rev.net/people/aloe/geography>
>
You're priceless, Eartha!

Don Widders
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From: "Don Widders" <widders@talkwithoutdifficulty.org>
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Subject: Re: Bias of north-oriented maps?
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