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Article #69Re: Upstate New York
From: ¿fooguy?
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 15:56
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 15:56
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"Steve Fleckenstein" <spfleck@citlinkdot.net> wrote in message news:<u74g8ilco8cn7c@corp.supernews.com>... > | : Please vote for your favorite definitions of "Upstate NY". > > Depends on the perspective of the person making the observation. > > To a NYC doctor I know upstate is anything north of Yonkers. > > As a kid from Queens in the 1960's to me it was the Catskills, My Uncle's > place in Westbrookville in Sullivan Cty, my grandparents place in Smallwood > and Howe Caverns. > > To someone in Lake George it is along the Canadian border. > > To me in Orange Cty today upstate is Albany and north, Rochester , etc. > > Ask someone in Rochester where upstate is. They might suggest Canada. > > Steve As someone who grew up in Lake George/Saratoga area, I was always offended and the loose, often misuse of the term "upstate". My parents (and extended family) all worked for NY State in one capacity or another, so I got to know the geography of the state pretty well. It wasn't until I worked for Bell Atlantic (which is now Verizon, and as we all know was formerly NYNEX/NY Telephone/AT&T/Ma Bell) that I came to appreciate the true divisions of the state. After about two weeks I realized that the areacode boundries of the state really did define the people - without looking at the number on the screen I could guess where the person was from by their accent. It's an uncanny ability that does me no good here in Virginia (in the Glens Falls/Lake George/Saratoga area I can sometimes tell what school a local went to by their accent). Granted, those divisions are really broad. 518 represents people from Albany, Troy, Saratoga, and Plattsburgh just to name a few. I'm sure people from Binghamton (a great accent by the way) don't want to be assoicated with people from Owego, but the opposite is usually true. I have two coworkers "from Buffalo" - one is actually from Tanawanda and the other Elmira. I paged them both one day with the following... A NEW YORK STATE PAGER HAIKU: HOME IS ELMIRA OR MAYBE TANAWANDA BUT NOT BUFFALO So how do I divide NY state? If not by area code: Buffalo - Western NY Rochester - North/Central NY Syracuse - Central NY Binghamton - South/Central NY Albany - Eastern NY Plattsburgh - Northern NY The Bell System divides 914 into Upstate and Downstate for calling areas. I usually just think of the area in terms of Poughkeepsie and Whiteplains.
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