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1 total messages Started by Matti Yrjola Thu, 14 Oct 1993 10:29
Re: 3000 Networking sucks. RE: Networking on MPE
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Author: Matti Yrjola
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 10:29
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>
>   Well I might as well jump in here and say that the HP way sucks when
> it comes to the [box on users desk] to hp3000 connection.
>

Hmmm... I think you should explain more concretely in what way does the
HP suck?

>     I am in a University enviroment and we have thousands of users all over
> the state.   We let anyone connected to our machine to search the database.
> The 3000 contains the complete online catalog of all books in our University
> afiliated librarys in the state.
>

We use our HP3000/932 for the same purpose (among other things).

> What we have come to a conclusion to is DO NOT ASK THE USER TO CHANGE!
> Don't ask them to change to HP emulating software.  Do not even try to
> give away any software to help them (we have seen other units try this aproch
> for their oddball hardware).  It is far easer to change the system or
> dump a machine than to change them.
>

What do you mean by "HP emulating software"? HP-terminal emulation?
If the online catalog software requires some special HP-terminal emulation then
it is a problem with the library software not with the machine.

> It is realy unrelistic to change thousands of people who get connected with
> just about every imaginable configuration of hardware and software.  We are
> planning a brute force aproch to help our crippled 3000.  We plan on putting
> the 3000 on a network seprate from the internet.  It will be connected to
> a UNIX box which will be the box connected to the internet.  We are planning
> to have the 3000 talk to the UNIX box via either the VT3k, (I do not know any-
> thing about this product), or by using terminal servers to convert the TCP/IP
> to RS232 and route this through the DTC's.   I have seen a simular setup on
 the
> east coast.

Don't use the VT3k it will put load both on the UNIX box and the HP3000.

If you just need to use telnet to connect to the HP3000 (and your HP3000 is
a PA-RISC machine series 9xx-something) then you should use the Telnet
Access Card on the DTC (ie. buy it). For the users it will look like they
are connecting straight to the HP3000, we haven't had any problems with this.
You don't need to change your users hardware and software.

>
>                  If you have a better suggestion I will at least read your
> message.  Send replys to FNRJH@Aurora.Alaska.edu
>
> PS.  The rantings, ravings, and misspellings are my fault not that of my
> employer.
>                Robert J. Hale III
>                University of Alaska Fairbanks
>                IMPACT/Gnosis Dept.
>                Room 510 Rasmuson Library.
>                Fairbanks Alaska  99775
>                (907) 474-5292 wk.
>                (907) 474-6841 fax.
>

If you want to know more about our experiences send me a message.
--
Matti

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