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Mon, 06 Jun 1994 20:35
Price list for unix products (long)
Author: Eric Thomas
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 1994 20:35
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 1994 20:35
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********************** Prices for unix(R) products **********************
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* Introduction - system "groups" *
**********************************
Each supported system and/or architecture requires us to either purchase
a workstation, or procure convenient and dependable access to a suitable
development system (usually at a non-negligible cost in free
licenses/support and legal fees). We simply cannot use guest accounts
provided on an informal basis, especially as this usually conflicts with
the non-profit nature of the organizations offering such accounts. We can
use accounts on suitably secure and well-connected academic facilities,
but only if there is a firm, written commitment to provide the resources
for a certain period of time, and with at least three months of advance
notice in case of termination.
This means that each supported unix system costs us real money, and we
cannot justify supporting a particular system or architecture unless
there are enough interested parties. About 75% of our customers want to
run LISTSERV on AIX(R) or SunOS (with many of the SunOS sites interested
in future support for Solaris). Another 20% want to use Ultrix(TM) and
later migrate to OSF/1(R). In other words, we can cover 75% of the market
with just two systems plus a commitment to support Solaris, and 95% with
three systems plus a commitment to support Solaris and OSF/1(R). To grab
the remaining 5%, we would need to support over a dozen additional
systems. For the time being, we will concentrate on the top 5.
In order to reflect our real costs in the support prices, we have decided
to classify the various unixes in a number of "groups". Group A
corresponds to the unixes for which we have 20 customers or more -
systems for which fixed costs are no longer the main issue, and for which
we cannot avoid having to build each and every fix that becomes
available. We will put all the "contenders" in group B, whereas the more
"exotic" systems will be in group C. Within a given group, all prices
will be the same. Most promotional offers will be restricted to groups A
and B, or occasionally just to group A.
*********************
* Supported systems *
*********************
We are presently in a position to offer support for AIX(R), SunOS 4.1
(sun4), Ultrix(TM) and BSDi. We are working on a suitable development
agreement for Solaris and OSF/1(R). We do not presently have sufficient
demand to provide support for HP/UX. The various systems are classified
as follows:
Group A: AIX(R), SunOS 4.1 (sun4), BSDi
Group B: Ultrix(TM)
Group C: -
Group ratings are guaranteed for a period of one year from the date
hereof (6 June 1994).
BSDi is being classified in group A because of its very low hardware
cost, and because of our desire to provide list management solutions at
rock bottom prices for people who cannot afford more traditional
equipment.
We have verified that the code works on Solaris, and indeed one of our
beta-test sites is running that system. We are simply missing a suitable
development machine, and are actively working on that.
***********************************************
* Investment protection (indefinite licenses) *
***********************************************
To protect your software investment, we provide upgrades between the
various unix(R) systems at a very low cost, for indefinite licenses.
Investment protection is not a concern for gradated licenses, as you can
always turn them in for a credit towards the purchase of another gradated
license for a different system.
"Vertical" license upgrades (from one version to a newer one, or from one
unix to its vendor-mandated replacement) are provided at no charge for
systems in groups A and B, except that we may charge for media + shipment
if you are not able to receive updates electronically. This means that
you will be able to upgrade at no cost from SunOS to Solaris, or from
Ultrix(TM) to OSF/1(R), when support for these systems becomes available.
We will even let you run the code on both machines at no extra charge,
for a migration period of 3 months, provided that your license is under
"Category II" support (or higher). If you need more time to complete your
migration, you can extend this migration period by up to another 6
months, for $300/month. And, if you were under maintenance, you will
receive support for the new machine or system at the same price, for the
current year; thereafter, as per the group rating of the target machine.
For systems in group C, we cannot guarantee that the new system will be
supported at the same price - or that it will be supported at all.
"Horizontal" license upgrades (from one brand to another) will be
available at a nominal charge of 10% of the license's list price for the
target group, plus media and shipment, if applicable. If the license is
under support, the maintenance contract will be upgraded at no cost if
the migration is within the same group, or from one group to a cheaper
one. When migrating to a more expensive group, you will pay the prorated
difference between the two support prices.
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* Unlimited licenses *
**********************
Unlimited licenses let you use the software as much as you want for a
fixed price. In other words, this is the type of license you want to
purchase if you are planning to migrate a mainframeful of lists to a
cheaper unix(R) system. The list prices for indefinite licenses for
unlimited use are as follows (all prices are one-time charges):
Corporate Academic
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LISTSERV-TCP/IP for unix, V1.8a $5,376.00 $4,300.00
(all groups)
Yearly support charges:
Category II
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LISTSERV-TCP/IP for unix, V1.8a:
- Group A $3,000.00 -> 3000 migration points
- Group B $3,500.00 -> 3500 migration points
Category II support includes new versions, fixes, and technical support
(e-mail, FAX or phone). The prices quoted above assume fixes can be
delivered electronically; otherwise, we will bill you for media, handling
and shipment when you order fixes from L-Soft support.
*********************
* Gradated licenses *
*********************
Gradated licenses will be available 3Q94 and will make it possible for
you to decide in advance how much capacity (ie how many lists,
subscribers, and so on) you want to be able to handle, and pay for just
that capacity, regardless of the speed of your machine. The prices for
gradated licenses are as follows:
Corporate Academic
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LISTSERV-TCP/IP for unix, group A:
- Gradated license + support $135.00/pt $110.00/pt
- Gradated support only $110.00/pt $90.00/pt
- Migration points earned: 110/pt 90/pt
LISTSERV-TCP/IP for unix, group B:
- Gradated license + support $150.00/pt $120.00/pt
- Gradated support only $130.00/pt $105.00/pt
- Migration points earned: 130/pt 105/pt
All prices are per "license point" and per year. "Gradated support only"
requires an indefinite, unlimited license. You earn one migration point
per support dollar, regardless of whether you pay for support only, or
support plus license (migration points are only awarded for support
purchases).
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**************************** Package offers *****************************
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Package offers are heavily discounted combinations of L-Soft products,
usually with a hard deadline for placing your order. Because package
offers already include all applicable discounts, they are not cumulative
with other promotional offers. In particular, while a package can earn
you "migration points" that can be spent on maintenance for other L-Soft
products, you cannot use your migration points to further lower the price
of a package.
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******************************** LUX-75% ********************************
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* *
* Package name: LUX-75% *
* Products: LISTSERV for unix *
* Systems: Group A (AIX(R), SunOS 4.1, BSDi) *
* Group B (ULTRIX(TM)) *
* Order before: July 1, 1994 - CREN members only *
* *
* License: Indefinite/unlimited *
* Support: One year, category II *
* *
* Price: 75% of your FY'93 CREN membership (year 1) *
* From year 2, *
* - $3,000.00/year for group A *
* - $3,500.00/year for group B *
* - Or as little as $450/year (5pt) if you opt *
* for gradated support *
* *
* Migration points: One for each $3 spent *
* *
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This is the promotional offer that was announced on May 4, 1994, together
with the announcement of the unix(R) version of LISTSERV. In order to
qualify, you must be a CREN member and we must receive your order before
July 1, 1994. The price is 75% of your FY'93 CREN membership dues, and
you will also receive one migration point for each $3 in the final price
(that is, if your FY'93 CREN membership dues were $6,000.00, the price
you pay is $4,500.00 and you receive 1500 migration points).
This offer includes one year of support. From year 2, you can opt for
either unlimited support, at $3,000.00/year for group A or $3,500.00/year
for group B, or gradated support for $90/pt (academic) or $110/pt
(corporate). Each gradated support "point" corresponds roughly to one
list; see the separate "Gradated licenses" announcement for more details.
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******************************* LUX-2000 ********************************
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* *
* Package name: LUX-2000 *
* Products: LISTSERV for unix *
* Systems: Group A (AIX(R), SunOS 4.1, BSDi) *
* Order before: September 1, 1994 *
* *
* License: Indefinite/unlimited *
* Support: One year, category II *
* *
* Price: $2,000.00 (year 1) *
* From year 2, *
* - $3,000.00/year (unlimited) *
* - Or as little as $450/year (5pt) if you opt *
* for gradated support *
* *
* Migration points: 500 *
* *
* Notes: - Academic customers only. *
* - CREN members not eligible. *
* - Members of other "CREN cooperating networks" *
* on a case by case basis (developing countries *
* only). *
* *
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This new promotional offer makes it possible for current users of
ListProc or other unix(R) mailing list managers to upgrade to the real
LISTSERV at a very attractive rate. CREN members should use the LUX-75%
package instead, unless they plan to terminate their membership before
September 1, 1994. Members of other cooperating networks should contact
L-Soft.
This offer includes one year of support. From year 2, you can opt for
either unlimited support, at $3,000.00/year for group A or $3,500.00/year
for group B, or gradated support for $90/pt. Each gradated support
"point" corresponds roughly to one list; see the separate "Gradated
licenses" announcement for more details.
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******************************* LUX-2500 ********************************
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* *
* Package name: LUX-2500 *
* Products: LISTSERV for unix *
* Systems: Group A (AIX(R), SunOS 4.1, BSDi) *
* Order before: September 1, 1994 *
* *
* License: Indefinite/unlimited *
* Support: One year, category II *
* *
* Price: $2,500.00 (year 1) *
* From year 2, *
* - $3,000.00/year (unlimited group A) *
* - Or as little as $550/year (5pt) if you opt *
* for gradated support *
* *
* Migration points: 500 *
* *
* Notes: - CREN members not eligible. *
* - Members of other "CREN cooperating networks" *
* on a case by case basis (developing countries *
* only). *
* *
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This is the corporate variant of the LUX-2000 package, with a slightly
higher price tag.
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****************** General conditions and disclaimers *******************
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All prices are in US dollars and exclusive of sales or other tax. Unless
indicated otherwise, all prices are guaranteed for a period of one year
from the date hereof (6 June 1994). Package prices and other promotional
prices are guaranteed until their expiration date ("Order before:" in the
package templates). Academic customers include all non-profit
degree-granting organizations of higher education. Other non-profit
organizations may also be eligible; contact L-Soft for more information.
L-Soft International, Inc. ("L-Soft" in this document) does not endorse
or approve the use of any of the product names or trademarks appearing in
this document.
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